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Martini Enfield ?
Aug 31st, 2021 at 3:56pm
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I inherited a Martini Enfield ages ago and was hoping someone more knowledgeable (that's almost everyone) would be able to tell me a bit about the history of it.   I've tried to attach a photo but not sure it'll work the first time.
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Re: Martini Enfield ?
Reply #1 - Aug 31st, 2021 at 4:40pm
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Having a fun time trying to upload images
  

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1 image at a time I guess
  

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Re: Martini Enfield ?
Reply #3 - Aug 31st, 2021 at 4:44pm
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Please tell me if there's any markings That I should be looking for to help.
  

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Re: Martini Enfield ?
Reply #8 - Aug 31st, 2021 at 5:01pm
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The original Martini action was designed by an American by the name of Peabody - it had a side hammer on a backlock action.
Peabody patented his action on July 22nd 1862.

In1867, the Swiss purchased a number to go into the Swiss Trials. During this time, a Swiss inventor by the name of Martini altered the action by placing the striker within the action, thus eliminating the hammer and separate lock - it became the Peabody-Martini.

In about 1871 the British adopted a new rifle for their armed forces using the Peabody action with the Martini improvement. During the British Trials, the Henry barrel which was furnished with a different type of rifling was adopted - and the rifle was known as the Martini-Henry.
Calibre was .577/.450.

Then in 1886, the British tried another cartridge of .42 calibre with a new barrel, and 70,000 of these were made at Enfield - and the rifle became known as the Martini-Enfield.
The original .42 calibre rifles were converted back to the old .577/.450 cartridge.
Then when the Lee-Enfield rifle in .303 calibre was adopted, many were converted to that calibre.

It was an exceedingly rugged and strong action and served through to the end of the 1st World War.

It came in two lever lengths, the 'long finger lever mk1' and the 'short finger lever mk 11'.

Your photo is shit - it doesn't appear to have a finger lever, nor even an action - get a more accurate camera.

The Poms love these things, they remind them of Ishandwana when the Zullu's with their short spears trashed the British Army armed with the .577/.450 cal Martini-Henry.
The British (?) did redeem themselves at Rorkes Drift where more Victoria Cross Medals were handed out to the Welsh Engineers (and a couple of colonials) who defended the place, than in any other hostile engagement.

I'm a Welshman - and I feel like singing ......... Smiley

  
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Re: Martini Enfield ?
Reply #9 - Aug 31st, 2021 at 6:09pm
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Thanks for the historic info SF91.  All the photos show up fine on my laptop.  Here's the pic of the action
  

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Reply #10 - Aug 31st, 2021 at 6:12pm
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Here I try again
  

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Reply #11 - Aug 31st, 2021 at 7:24pm
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Cheers mate - you just had the one photo showing when I wrote, thought you probably had my daughter take it  Smiley

I don't know what your numbers mean - they will to someone, and they may pipe up ........ hopefully.

The British .577/.450 rifles have quite a following, but I don't know about the .303's.
Good gun just the same  Smiley
  
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Reply #12 - Aug 31st, 2021 at 7:42pm
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Unfortunately it's only good as a wall hanger so just sits in the safe most of the time Cry
  
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Re: Martini Enfield ?
Reply #13 - Sep 4th, 2021 at 1:25pm
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I still shoot mine with light loads:





Originally made in 1880 as a .577/450 Martini-Henry then converted to .303 in 1895.

I've just loaded up some 220 grain cast bullets with Trailboss to see how they go.
  
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Re: Martini Enfield ?
Reply #14 - Sep 4th, 2021 at 10:24pm
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Iíve got one from a similar era and it shoots factory .303 rounds fine. Itís currently being rebarrelled to a .500 Express #2 (also known as a 577/500 #2). My understanding is that this was the largest round that could go into the MH action. With modern powders and keeping under 33,000 PSI, it should be able to push a 530gn projectile around 1900 fps  Cool
  

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