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Following up on the actual sighting in this is how I head shoot rabbits with Winchester Subsonics with the POI shot in at 50 meters. Assuming its a reasonable size rabbit use the rabbit to put your cross hairs in the right spot to from 0 to 60 meters, and a bit beyond. Your having to guess the distance but if the rabbits are bout same size, half to full grow, you will get pretty good at it.. off a rest is best.
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Just wondering which Winchester subs you use - I have a brick of the 40grs and I can't get better than 1 1/2" at fifty yards out of either of my BRNO's. I measured them with a micrometer and they're quite a bit undersize - about .220" and I wondered if the low velocity wasn't bumping them into the bore. Otherwise - terminal performance is pretty good.
Have got another brick of the old 40gr supersonic Winchester Rabbit Ammo which measures the same, but they do shoot better .......... bit noisy for where I'm shooting though.
When I used to head shoot a lot of rabbits, pet food production, was some years back so not rely sure which one they was. Still using them though in the same bolt action .22 ruger 77/22. Its had the barrel shortened though for easier handling inside of a truck. Just body shoot now as not picking up, but still use something of the same sytem. Aim high if within 5-20 meters, aim high center of mass 20 -50 meters, aim top of back.. on the hair air line 50 meters . Havnt actually shot at a piece of paper with them for years. Interesting comment you make though. Having a think about that.
“We either make ourselves miserable, or we make ourselves strong. The amount of work is the same.”
Yeah, we're 'body shooting' them too, but would like them to group a bit better. I did toy with the idea of making a die to 'bump' them up to .224/.225" to see if they shot better - and I see people do that with a Paco Kelly tool or similar, but we don't shoot .22lr that much and I'm not sure I can be bothered.
I've got some quite old .22 ammo here, 1000 rounds of the old blue box CAC supersonics and quite a few ICI's that I bought better than fifty years ago and they still shoot okay - but all too noisy around here as people get a bit antsy nowdays if they hear a gun go off up the hill.
Just measured those CAC's and they come out at a smidge over .224".
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Re: Sighting in your .22lr Reply #36 - Apr 27th, 2020 at 6:59pm
Have found the 42g win subs to be excellent killers and shoot well in my Brno and 10/22,the CCI subs are a little bit more accurate but don’t seem to anchor the bunny as well ,the hole in the end is a lot smaller than the Winchester I think that’s the difference..the extra 2g in weight might help as well,usually just sight in bang on @50m
Just went and looked at the brick im using Mr Bomb and they are 42grainers too. They are just shooting spot on at the moment. Hard to miss with my trigger at 1.5lbs and breaking like a dry twig. Heaps or richochettes though. They often pass straight through. They do the damage fir sure. No survivors to report.
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Cheers mate, I didn't even know those 42 grainers existed until the other day - they sound good. Never tried the CCI's as I only really went to subs after my nephew went on and on about them a few years back when he was shooting possums - so I got some to shoot up the back and like them.
Might look up some of those heavier ones - can never have too much .22lr
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Re: Sighting in your .22lr Reply #39 - May 5th, 2020 at 5:53pm
Interesting topic. I've set a a 25m range (50 if no one comes up the drive) The new box of Winchester subs is far from accurate, 20mm @ 25m, but the few I had left from years ago were spot on keyhole. I don't have any left to see if they were 42g. Blue box from memory. The new ammo does flatten rabbits fine and I will use them on goats next week.
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Re: Sighting in your .22lr Reply #40 - May 6th, 2020 at 7:17pm
Use the subs on goats if you like to hear them scream(can’t stand it myself they sound like a small child)I hav3 used the CCI velocitor on goats and it kills well under 50m
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Re: Sighting in your .22lr Reply #41 - May 7th, 2020 at 12:05pm
Couple of years ago I shot 8 out of a mob of 10 with subs. Not a scream to be heard. It’s definitely not my go to round for them and I’ve shot many with stingers. Head shooting with subs from 10 to 40ish meters is fine.
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Re: Sighting in your .22lr Reply #42 - May 19th, 2020 at 6:42am
The quality of CCI and Winchester ammo just isnt there these days . Since Winchester stopped making Australian .22 ammo its been US made , and its poor quality . The Aussie stuff was very good though.
For standard velocity ammo the SK stuff in the jellymeat cans is good ammo - very greasy though
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