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Sorry TJ, the Privacy Act applies to anyone who holds private information on another person. I work with it every day.
I think you are referring to the Official Information Act which as you said only applies to Govt depts although that includes any Govt body such as a council etc too.
I think Trade Me will use an automated system to check the Licence number is valid the same as banks do re IRD numbers when you open an account. What happens with a bank is when they are loading your details in the 'puter it logs in to IRD and and the IRD computer simply confirms whether or not the number is valid, nothing more. Its a mathematical check only as others have pointed out.
I doubt much would be gained by getting a copy of what Trade Me holds on you, it will just be whatever you have supplied them and trading history and for us our license number.
I do share concerns as to who can access this stuff though.
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Re: Trademe and firearm licence numbers Reply #31 - Jun 25th, 2009 at 9:31am
here is some further comments from Gary Howat at COLFO when I raised the issue of Trademe disclosing firearms owner detailes to the Police.
"Yes my details were some disclosed in this also. I believe the License being asked for was done in conjunction with the Police. Trademe will drop gun sales if it becomes to big an issue as it is a very minor part of their business. There are some gun owners who work in Trademe and they want to see it continue. Not ideal but I choose not to buy and sell online there now."
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Re: Trademe and firearm licence numbers Reply #32 - Jun 25th, 2009 at 9:39am
Banks use Paystation which has a layered security system for transactions. Trademe has this protection for FA license numbers? Is it cool idea to have easy access to things like passport numbers, license numbers, addresses, birth dates-points for identification. In this day and age? Just guessing until trademe advises....
I have looked into this for you and can confirm that we have systems in place whereby we are able to verify the information. Due to the sensitivity of the information however I am unable to comment directly on exactly how we do this.
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Ask them specifically if they are getting the information from the police, cite the Privacy Act (which I understand requires them to tell you exactly what their source of information is), what their specific processes are for safeguarding your information, and mention the Privacy Commissioner if they don't give you a good answer.
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Re: Trademe and firearm licence numbers Reply #36 - Jun 25th, 2009 at 11:32am
No I think they are safe regarding that . I can ask about my information they have stored?? But they have no need to declare anything about their security arrangements.
Can i throw another angle on this , all the chat is about buying, what is stopping the sale of firearms from an unlicenced seller. (stolen firearms) If they can fluke a licence number. Does one asked for a licence validation from the seller. I have never traded on tm (ignoranse is bliss) and never will.. probably.
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Re: Trademe and firearm licence numbers Reply #38 - Jun 25th, 2009 at 1:11pm
We are legally required to hold onto information for a certain time-frame so unfortunately we cannot delete this number. I am sorry for the inconvenience.
Bugger, I just wanted to ask a question on a air rifle auction and got asked for a #... that's retarded, TM knows my age - and I dont need a license for a bloody air rifle!
Bastards.
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Re: Trademe and firearm licence numbers Reply #40 - Jun 27th, 2009 at 3:17pm
Bugger, I just wanted to ask a question on a air rifle auction and got asked for a #... that's retarded, TM knows my age - and I dont need a license for a bloody air rifle!
Bastards.
Hey,
quick question - but how do they know your age?
cheers Grunta
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Re: Trademe and firearm licence numbers Reply #41 - Jun 27th, 2009 at 3:25pm
Bugger, I just wanted to ask a question on a air rifle auction and got asked for a #... that's retarded, TM knows my age - and I dont need a license for a bloody air rifle!
Bastards.
Check the persons other listings for a non-firearm related auction and ask there?