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Dies v dies
Feb 4th, 2020 at 9:58pm
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Quick question.

Is there likely to be any noticeable difference between a set of cheap Lee dies ($65) verses a set or RCBS Competition dies?

I guess the proof will be in the pudding, I intend to load two identical sets with each brand of die and see if there is a noticeable difference
My gut feeling is no or fractional.

For context, it’s a 308 hunting load. Looking to shoot out to 500 so I’d like the best accuracy possible. Cheers Mike.
  
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Re: Dies v dies
Reply #1 - Feb 5th, 2020 at 7:35am
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I would suspect that the firearm would first have to be up to the task, (and then the shooter Wink ) before the dies became much of an issue. Also the reloaders ability in applying the principles of repeatable  consistancy in their reloads. I used a cheap set of Lee dies for my 22.250, and managed a 5 shot 2" @ 300m group back in the day. Loved that rifle Cool
  
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Reply #2 - Feb 5th, 2020 at 12:08pm
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Have to agree with the above.  Be interesting to hear if you can post a report later.
  

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Reply #3 - Feb 5th, 2020 at 2:36pm
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Have got a set of Lee carbide dies for the .44 mag, don't need lube with these dies - they're as slick as slick.

Don't know if they come in the longer rifle cases, but if they did - I'd grab some.

All my others are RCBS - and they work fine.
  
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Reply #4 - Feb 5th, 2020 at 8:13pm
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XRhunter wrote on Feb 5th, 2020 at 7:35am:
I would suspect that the firearm would first have to be up to the task, (and then the shooter Wink ) before the dies became much of an issue. Also the reloaders ability in applying the principles of repeatable  consistancy in their reloads. I used a cheap set of Lee dies for my 22.250, and managed a 5 shot 2" @ 300m group back in the day. Loved that rifle Cool


You’re right on the money I suspect. Using your scale of fallibility the shooter (me) is definitely the weak link.

Should get a chance tomorrow. Will post results.
  
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Reply #5 - Feb 6th, 2020 at 3:12pm
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Interested - I use Lee for my 223 and RCBS for my 7 mm - does it matter? Considering they all have to be milled to the same set of  SAAMI dimensions it shouldn’t make a difference at all should it. Tolerances of thousands of an inch possibly.
  

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Reply #6 - Feb 8th, 2020 at 9:30am
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Ive got LEE ,Hornady,rcbs and nah for my shooting and hunting loads bugger all if any diference.....in fact I PREFER the old lee set,the rcbs gave me issues with dented shoulders when I over lubed...graphite powder sorted that...and that set of dies got rust on them too.
  
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Micky Duck wrote on Feb 8th, 2020 at 9:30am:
Ive got LEE ,Hornady,rcbs and nah for my shooting and hunting loads bugger all if any diference.....in fact I PREFER the old lee set,the rcbs gave me issues with dented shoulders when I over lubed...graphite powder sorted that...and that set of dies got rust on them too.


Jeeze, if robs denting your shoulders because you had too much lube, you need to ask him to go easy, or try a different position if you like it that rough.

  
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Reply #8 - Feb 12th, 2020 at 7:09pm
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RCBS.....tis a C not an O.....
I now use vasoline smeared on side walls up to the shoulder and the graphite powder does the neck,both insode and out.
havent had a problem for over ten years doing it that way.
  
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Reply #9 - Feb 13th, 2020 at 3:31pm
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Reply #10 - Feb 13th, 2020 at 7:25pm
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Gotta love that he prefers vaseline .........  Wink
  
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