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Reply #1 - Aug 27th, 2019 at 11:05pm
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Need to 'up the ante' Alan - no one's listening.

Words are good, they have their place - but when no one's listening you gotta attract their attention some other way.

Maybe a petition ............. maybe something else - because they ain't f**kin listening.
  
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Reply #2 - Aug 28th, 2019 at 8:07am
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Could it be, that of the 250,000 firearms owners, 217,000 have no firearms to, or should, hand in.
Most of the discussions here seem to be those conncerned with a very few shots taken on a shooting occasion and thus have no intrest in the MSSA type, nor do they like them or wish to own them as shooters.
My involvement with guns includes semi-auto firearms as they are more intresting and a little bit more for-filling than just plain old bolt actions.
  
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Reply #3 - Aug 28th, 2019 at 9:45am
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It's funny you say that, I was thinking the same thing. I don't have, nor have I ever had any of those MSSA type guns - they just didn't interest me.
But I did see them all the time down the range - and right up until all this 'blew up' - I thought you had to have a different category license to own one.
But yeah - I did wonder if there were as many around as was suggested.
  
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Reply #4 - Aug 28th, 2019 at 12:41pm
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SF90 wrote on Aug 28th, 2019 at 9:45am:
But yeah - I did wonder if there were as many around as was suggested.


Ohh I think there are.  Every single firearm imported into NZ needed a permit, so 'they' must at least have a rough idea of the volumes out there.
It shouldn't be too hard to subtract permits from confiscated and shop stock to get a number.  It won't be 100% accurate but good enough for government work
  

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but it has been possible to build one out of parts imported. I have done it a couple of times. Not M,S,S.A firearms but still an operating weapon all the same. You cant figure that into possible firearm numbers in NZ. Huh
  

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Reply #6 - Aug 28th, 2019 at 11:38pm
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Couple of points Alan.
Of the 250,000 gun owners, how many are farmers or hunters like myself that have no interest in owning a semi auto? Iíd estimate at least 150,000 of them.
And as if Labour cares about the votes of gun owners. They donít even care about the votes of ordinary working folk any more. All they care about is union pay rates, minority groups and of course saving the world.
  
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Reply #7 - Aug 30th, 2019 at 12:33pm
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Maddoghunter wrote on Aug 28th, 2019 at 11:38pm:
Couple of points Alan.
Of the 250,000 gun owners, how many are farmers or hunters like myself that have no interest in owning a semi auto? Iíd estimate at least 150,000 of them.
And as if Labour cares about the votes of gun owners. They donít even care about the votes of ordinary working folk any more. All they care about is union pay rates, minority groups and of course saving the world.

Remember, it's not just semis Madddog, if you own a firearm that has a mag capability of more than ten rounds, it is now illegal regardless of the action.
Whether this was deliberate or an unintended consequence of the rushed legislation I don't know. 
I am appalled by the complete lack of due process that the government followed and will continue to follow with further rounds of changes.  If you think that farmers and hunters are not going to be impacted then you are sorely mistaken.
  

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Reply #8 - Aug 30th, 2019 at 6:43pm
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imaca wrote on Aug 30th, 2019 at 12:33pm:
Maddoghunter wrote on Aug 28th, 2019 at 11:38pm:
Couple of points Alan.
Of the 250,000 gun owners, how many are farmers or hunters like myself that have no interest in owning a semi auto? Iíd estimate at least 150,000 of them.
And as if Labour cares about the votes of gun owners. They donít even care about the votes of ordinary working folk any more. All they care about is union pay rates, minority groups and of course saving the world.

Remember, it's not just semis Madddog, if you own a firearm that has a mag capability of more than ten rounds, it is now illegal regardless of the action.
Whether this was deliberate or an unintended consequence of the rushed legislation I don't know.†
I am appalled by the complete lack of due process that the government followed and will continue to follow with further rounds of changes.† If you think that farmers and hunters are not going to be impacted then you are sorely mistaken.

I forgot that when I wrote that sorry.
Still though, the average cocky or bushman that has no semi automatics probably wouldnít even bother taking it further and checking magazine capacity.
And it wouldnít surprise me if a lot of blokes the own hunting semi autos just hear that mssaís are now banned, and donít give it any more thought.

Itís becoming pretty obvious that the whole thing is going to fall on its face and the incoming National govt will have to clean up the mess, either by extending the amnesty or by allowing sporting exemptions.
  
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