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Countdown donating to forest and bird
Aug 20th, 2019 at 7:45am
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Does anyone know the mechanism that Countdown uses to donate to forest and bird? Is it through customer use of the Countdown Onecard or is Countdown just donating to forest and bird directly.
  
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Reply #1 - Aug 20th, 2019 at 9:26am
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I thought that campaign ended a few months ago after a lot of negative feedback to Countdown.

While the campaign was running I boycotted Countdown after letting them know why I was going to boycott them.
  
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Reply #2 - Aug 20th, 2019 at 11:14am
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Hi, I haven't boycotted countdown but refused to use my Onecard as I thought that was the channel they were using to get money to those idiots. Hopefully it has been discontinued.
  
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Reply #4 - Aug 20th, 2019 at 5:29pm
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I thought you were pro the environment Ash? All I see there is a pledge to remove plastic? Surely a good thing?
  
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Reply #5 - Aug 20th, 2019 at 6:17pm
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I'd agree. Forest and Bird might want to reduce deer numbers in some places but keeping plastic out of the oceans seems a thoroughly worthy cause to me and something I'm quite happy to contribute to
  
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Reply #6 - Aug 21st, 2019 at 8:18am
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Forest & Bird want to kill every non native animal in the bush,
they are no friend to the NZ hunter
  
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Re: Countdown donating to forest and bird
Reply #7 - Aug 21st, 2019 at 6:45pm
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tantrim wrote on Aug 21st, 2019 at 8:18am:
Forest & Bird want to kill every non native animal in the bush,
they are no friend to the NZ hunter


Correct, I'm doing my own thing to get rid of plastic bags, don't need to give money to those pricks to help with their agenda as stated above (where I'm sure some or all of the money will be going). I've written to countdown wanting an answer.
  
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Re: Countdown donating to forest and bird
Reply #8 - Aug 22nd, 2019 at 2:07pm
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Wrote to countdown, they won't  answer my direct question i.e what is the mechanism they use to give money to f and b, is it onecard?
I keep getting a pat answer; "thanks for getting in touch with us.  As part of our environmental and community initiatives, we partner with a number of charities across New Zealand, including Forest and Bird as part of our efforts to reduce plastic and help minimize our impact on the environment. 

For our All for One campaign, we have chosen three great causes and given customers the choice on who they would like to donate a prize to.  We understand and appreciate that everyone will have different view on these charities, and we thank you for your feedback.

If we can be of any further assistance, please contact us via email or call 0800 40 40 40".
  
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tantrim wrote on Aug 21st, 2019 at 8:18am:
Forest & Bird want to kill every non native animal in the bush,
they are no friend to the NZ hunter

100% true
  
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Reply #10 - Aug 23rd, 2019 at 8:29am
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F&B truely believe 1080 and broudificum are the only 2 answers to NZ Bush. They refute any anti 1080 research and the research that states Moa were the equivalent major vegetative browser pre colonisation. They are a very dangerous group as far as hunters are concerned and they have a lot of pull with DOC, Regional councils and central Govt.
  

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Reply #11 - Aug 23rd, 2019 at 10:59am
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Radar wrote on Aug 23rd, 2019 at 8:29am:
the research that states Moa were the equivalent major vegetative browser pre colonisation.


Equivalent to deer/tahr/chamois/pigs?
  

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Reply #12 - Aug 23rd, 2019 at 11:00am
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its good that most hunters are on the same page about this
  
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Reply #13 - Aug 23rd, 2019 at 11:58am
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Oscar wrote on Aug 23rd, 2019 at 10:59am:
Radar wrote on Aug 23rd, 2019 at 8:29am:
the research that states Moa were the equivalent major vegetative browser pre colonisation.


Equivalent to deer/tahr/chamois/pigs?


Deer. The research was done by a couple of LandCare  scientists. Not sure if they had their funding tail off, coming up with findings like that! The cheek of it, finding an equivalent place in the ecosystem for the dreaded enemy!!! Wink Wink Wink
  
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Reply #14 - Aug 23rd, 2019 at 1:30pm
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XRhunter wrote on Aug 23rd, 2019 at 11:58am:
Oscar wrote on Aug 23rd, 2019 at 10:59am:
Radar wrote on Aug 23rd, 2019 at 8:29am:
the research that states Moa were the equivalent major vegetative browser pre colonisation.



Equivalent to deer/tahr/chamois/pigs?


Deer. The research was done by a couple of LandCare  scientists. Not sure if they had their funding tail off, coming up with findings like that! The cheek of it, finding an equivalent place in the ecosystem for the dreaded enemy!!! Wink Wink Wink


This research, with a couple of Landcare scientists as authors, found the opposite:  Impacts of introduced deer and extinct moa on New Zealand ecosystems

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Although collectively the various taxa of deer in New Zealand use all of the habitats utilised by moa, and there is partial overlap in the diets of deer and moa, deer can attain densities and biomasses 100- fold greater than reasonably surmised for moa. We believe that the impacts of introduced deer on ecosystems are markedly different from those of moa.


Although, I dont see the Forum cited in their references, so guess that's a flaw in the study Smiley
  

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