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.222 stablising longer projectiles.
Jul 18th, 2019 at 3:50pm
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Still messing with the .222.

I have got the 70 grain Speer to shoot very well in my supposedly 1:14 twist BSA (didn't shoot at all in my Sako) and I was thinking about the 60 grain Partition. Which by all accounts will not shoot in a 14 twist at all, but,

What if I filed the bullet so it was shorter.
  
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Reply #1 - Jul 18th, 2019 at 8:19pm
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If you filed it, it would no longer be 60 grains though??
Also it would affect the aerodynamics of said projectile.
Guess it depends on what your using it for, seems to me that you would be better just using a 55 grain pill.
Fiddling with that stuff is fun though so don't let me put you off.
  
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Reply #2 - Jul 18th, 2019 at 9:31pm
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Its more that I wanted the bullet performance of the partition rather than the weight, but then, it might need the bit at the end.  Grin
I am already going off the idea.

  
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Reply #3 - Jul 19th, 2019 at 7:37pm
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try a few backwards...... big open lead tip and long boat tail LOL. Grin Grin
  
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Reply #4 - Jul 20th, 2019 at 4:03pm
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It needs a faster twist with heavier pills in the triple deuce. Becomes an issue what you want it to do. Killing? try a fast barrel and Barnes or 60gr Hornady thru a Vixen.The loads I do for 2 Vixens all run annealed brass every time. The owners say the grouping has got tighter. These dudes head shoot plovers.2C.
  
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Re: .222 stablising longer projectiles.
Reply #5 - Jul 21st, 2019 at 6:35pm
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Check out this website and plug in your bullet data to find the level of stability you may get. Put in the data for the 70gn Speers as a comparison.
file:///Users/Adam/Desktop/JBM%20-%20Calculations%20-%20Stability.webarchive
  
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Reply #6 - Jul 22nd, 2019 at 4:01pm
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That website is only sort of useful, mainly because I don't think all barrels are exactly 14 or exactly 12 twist etc.
I have had a Sako Vixen that wouldn't shoot 70 grainers even slightly - shotgun pattern over an A4 piece of paper, whereas the BSA .222 will shoot five rounds into .7 of inch
Now I should be happy with that, but I like to fiddle with .222's mainly because its so cheap to do it, and they usually will shoot everything well.
  
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Reply #7 - Mar 8th, 2020 at 11:16am
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Not sure why you need heavier pills in a 222? However, flat base 60g "should" work - just measure bullet length and stay away from boat tails over 50g.  Mind you - I can talk! I re-barrelled my 222 with a 1/8 twist last year. The original barrel had worn out, and a mate gave me a 1/12. Shot round corners. So I bought a take off, new Tikka barrel from Dan Hardy. Same threads as my older gun - but had to be shortened and re-chambered. But I Normally shoot 55g in it and leave the heavies for the 223 and 6mm rifles. It does shoot 70g nicely though, but the speed is well down.
  
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Re: .222 stablising longer projectiles.
Reply #8 - Apr 7th, 2020 at 10:31pm
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rifleman orewa wrote on Mar 8th, 2020 at 11:16am:
Not sure why you need heavier pills in a 222? However, flat base 60g "should" work - just measure bullet length and stay away from boat tails over 50g.  Mind you - I can talk! I re-barrelled my 222 with a 1/8 twist last year. The original barrel had worn out, and a mate gave me a 1/12. Shot round corners. So I bought a take off, new Tikka barrel from Dan Hardy. Same threads as my older gun - but had to be shortened and re-chambered. But I Normally shoot 55g in it and leave the heavies for the 223 and 6mm rifles. It does shoot 70g nicely though, but the speed is well down.

Have you tried any Barnes thru it ...the 53gr Tsx and 55gr Tsx? They like the faster twist. Loaded some 55gr GMK for another mate in an older 222. Does the bizo . Nice 13pt Wairoa stag before the roar.
  
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