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Jun 18th, 2019 at 9:09pm
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Advice please

Looking for a projectile for Fallow deer.
More interested in something which performs well with chest shots.
Preparing to put my 10 year old onto a deer, and a head/neck shot is not where I plan to start his journey into the world of hunting.

Thanks in advance.
  
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Reply #1 - Jun 18th, 2019 at 9:48pm
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I used to use Belmont ammo when I had a 222. Came in 50 round boxes. Shot heaps of small game and plenty of fallow with them.think they were 50 grain softpoints from memory.
  

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Reply #2 - Jun 19th, 2019 at 7:07am
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Try 55gr Sierra hollow point game kings.
  
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Reply #3 - Jun 20th, 2019 at 12:03am
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55 grain Hornady SP - (no. 2266)
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60 grain Hornady SP

A .222 with 1:14 twist will shoot either of these well and they act like miniature big game bullets.

For Barnes bullets the 50 grain TSX (not TTSX) non plastic tipped will shoot well and do what you expect from the Barnes bullets.

The 53 grain TSX will shoot well enough for a deer. (meaning about 2 inch groups at 100 metres)

53 grain Sierra Hollow Point match

These were all with max loads or slightly over. Any of these will handle a fallow deer.

I would like to test the 45 grain TSX on deer, I have not yet had the opportunity
  
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Reply #4 - Jun 20th, 2019 at 8:58am
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CH why not the ttsx??? it works great in my .223 at speeds not far above trebly...some would say same speed as I dont load hot.
50grn barnes
52grn hp speer
either will do the job fine n dandy
the TTSX50 grn preforms WAAAY better than it should,the terminal damage is on par with a rem corloct from the .270 winchester but damage is done in opposite order...eg nearside shoulder takes the big hit ,lungs are holed,off side has smaller our hole....so far every animal hit with them has gone down without fuss or bother.
  
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Re: 222 hunting projectile
Reply #5 - Jun 20th, 2019 at 9:37am
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Have a part box of recovered 55 gn Sierra gamekings, all weighing 40-52 gns, mushroomed under the far shoulder skin, shooting mainly Japs. MV from my Sportco 222 was 2800ish. Usual distance was 50-200m. Best shot was 425m
  
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Reply #6 - Jun 20th, 2019 at 7:52pm
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Micky Duck wrote on Jun 20th, 2019 at 8:58am:
CH why not the ttsx??? it works great in my .223 at speeds not far above trebly...some would say same speed as I dont load hot.
50grn barnes
52grn hp speer
either will do the job fine n dandy
the TTSX50 grn preforms WAAAY better than it should,the terminal damage is on par with a rem corloct from the .270 winchester but damage is done in opposite order...eg nearside shoulder takes the big hit ,lungs are holed,off side has smaller our hole....so far every animal hit with them has gone down without fuss or bother.



The performance on game is not in dispute - but shooting them in a .222 is the issue - .222 Rem have a 1:14 twist rate, slower than the  .223.
They are too long to stabilise in a .222 and will pepper an A4 sheet of paper like a shotgun.
  
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Re: 222 hunting projectile
Reply #7 - Jun 20th, 2019 at 7:58pm
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ok that makes sense I guess....didnt think the added length of plastic wouldve made any difference to its stability and if anything wouldve made the weight further back due to bigger nose cavity...but will take your word for it.
Alex Gale used another brand of solid copper projectiles in his 22-250 GS custom I think it was 45 grns doing silly speeds...... I still love cup n core projectiles but the monos really do make the wee rifles into giant killers.
  
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Reply #8 - Jun 21st, 2019 at 10:49am
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Stabilising is all about length and velocity not the weight, and the Barnes bullets are long bullets.

For a .222 the 50 grain TSX is the only one that will shoot well in both rifles, although a 53 grain TSX will shoot well enough for deer in one of them, but is not what you would call accurate
The plastic tipped TTSX will not stablise in any weight.

If I had a .223 I would use the 53 grain TTSX for sure, but the 50 grain TSX is a good bullet too. Using Barnes bullets makes people less anxious when using a .222 on big deer.

But its still hard to get away from the 55 and 60 grain Hornady's for their price considering they kill deer too.

I had read on the internet that the 70 grain Speer will shoot alright in a .222 because its a short bullet for its weight, but I could not get it to shoot in the Sako, spat them up like a baby. Still to try them in the BSA. I would like them to work...
  
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Reply #9 - Jun 22nd, 2019 at 10:18pm
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Courtesy of Tussock and his wife's kind hospitality, I spent a day with them on the farm and we also shot our BSA rifles.

Tried the 70 grain Speers in the BSA .222 and with what I consider a max charge of 24 grains of compressed 2208, achieved a 0.9 inch group for five shots, which was lightyears different to the Sako Vixen (which shot a ten inch group with the same load.)
Both of these rifles should be 1:14 twist as far as I can discover, so .222's and their twist rates, and therefore the results you can achieve, are individual.

So now I am keen to try the 70 grainer on big game. Essentially a .222 shooting a 70 grain bullet at 2800 fps duplicates the old .22 Hipower Savage cartridge. So that saves me buying one of them.
  
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Reply #10 - Jun 23rd, 2019 at 9:14am
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That just sounds like a limp excuse to not but a 99.
  
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Reply #11 - Jun 23rd, 2019 at 9:32am
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I load for 2 Vixens using 60gr Hornady and 25gr 748. The dudes with these thump deer all day long and 1 head shoots plovers with it.
  
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Re: 222 hunting projectile
Reply #12 - Jun 23rd, 2019 at 10:24am
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Yea interesting ah
I tried 55 gr Sierras and 55 gr Barnes in my Vixen and like CH said, the Barnes wouldn't stabilise in a 1:14 twist.
So I went back to 50 gr Noslers and 50 gr Hornady VMax.
With 20 gr 2207 they shoot like friggin lasers - like 5 shots inside a half inch group.
Haven't tried the 50gr Barnes but again,its the length of the projectile causing the problems more so that the weight.
  
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Re: 222 hunting projectile
Reply #13 - Jun 23rd, 2019 at 3:10pm
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Anyone tried the 65gr gamehunter in their vixen? Ive heard only praise for this projectile, but unsure if itd stabilise.
  
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Reply #14 - Jun 24th, 2019 at 11:56am
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mitch270 wrote on Jun 23rd, 2019 at 9:14am:
That just sounds like a limp excuse to not but a 99.


We both know I would still get one anyway...
  
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