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May 15th, 2019 at 10:59am
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Does any one know about thermal imaging, looking for something that can be used in the bush during the day for picking up deer up to 100m , don't want to spend a fortune
  
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Reply #1 - May 15th, 2019 at 9:45pm
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Have a talk to Fraser at owl optics
  
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Minimum about $3000 for the commercial gear. $14000 was minimum for the gear I could import. They do eat batteries.
  
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And you need to tip over a shitload of veni, day after day, month after month, to pay for that sort of kit Huh
  
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That's what I was thinking, didn't think they were that  (deer)
  
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You can get some cheap stuff. I wouldn’t waste my time with it tho, you get what you pay for.
  
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Sold a bit of thermal over the years but never saw the need to switch from NV to thermal. Always considered NV to just be more practical and versatile. Still use PVS-7 goggles and get around 100 - 150 hours use out of 2AA batteries compared to 1 hour from a $13 CR123 battery for a thermal FLIR Breach monocular. As usual its the hidden costs the sellers don`t tell you about.
  
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Reply #7 - May 20th, 2019 at 8:59pm
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in my experience using thermal in the bush during the day would be a waste of time, they dont work so well unless its  cold and even if you do pick up an animal it may still be behind a lot of bush that you cant see through, perhaps learning to bush hunt would be a better use of your time, learn to identify where animals tend to hang out and why, then all you have to do is sneak about slowly into the wind and bingo, plus as others have said they cost a shit load
  
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Reply #8 - Jun 9th, 2019 at 11:19pm
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awaterelad wrote on May 20th, 2019 at 8:59pm:
in my experience using thermal in the bush during the day would be a waste of time, they dont work so well unless its  cold and even if you do pick up an animal it may still be behind a lot of bush that you cant see through, perhaps learning to bush hunt would be a better use of your time, learn to identify where animals tend to hang out and why, then all you have to do is sneak about slowly into the wind and bingo, plus as others have said they cost a shit load


The amount of deer we get bush hunting with Pulsar thermal imagers vs not using them is a real eye opener. You'd be surprised at how many deer you walk past in the bush and never see. Especially good on Japs in heavily hunted areas like Clements Road. You hardly ever see the whole animal just parts that have an intense white glow. Very hard to pick up in the scope at times too. You just have to be patient and normally you'll pick up with the scope a head looking straight at you. Of course normal firearm safety and you must be sure it's deer you're shooting at beyond all possible doubt.

Most of the experienced guys 50 years and older in my area use them and most would go out and buy a replacement unit the next day if they lost their one or severely damaged it. Having said that they're damned expensive for what they are and it would be hard for a young hunter with a few kids and a mortgage to do that or buy one in the first place. It won't make you a better hunter but it will certainly locate a lot more deer in the bush for you.


  

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Tasbay wrote on May 18th, 2019 at 3:02pm:
Sold a bit of thermal over the years but never saw the need to switch from NV to thermal. Always considered NV to just be more practical and versatile. Still use PVS-7 goggles and get around 100 - 150 hours use out of 2AA batteries compared to 1 hour from a $13 CR123 battery for a thermal FLIR Breach monocular. As usual its the hidden costs the sellers don`t tell you about.


Try 4 hours on a rechargeable battery in a Breach
  
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10-Ring wrote on Jun 9th, 2019 at 11:19pm:
awaterelad wrote on May 20th, 2019 at 8:59pm:
in my experience using thermal in the bush during the day would be a waste of time, they dont work so well unless its  cold and even if you do pick up an animal it may still be behind a lot of bush that you cant see through, perhaps learning to bush hunt would be a better use of your time, learn to identify where animals tend to hang out and why, then all you have to do is sneak about slowly into the wind and bingo, plus as others have said they cost a shit load


The amount of deer we get bush hunting with Pulsar thermal imagers vs not using them is a real eye opener. You'd be surprised at how many deer you walk past in the bush and never see. Especially good on Japs in heavily hunted areas like Clements Road. You hardly ever see the whole animal just parts that have an intense white glow. Very hard to pick up in the scope at times too. You just have to be patient and normally you'll pick up with the scope a head looking straight at you. Of course normal firearm safety and you must be sure it's deer you're shooting at beyond all possible doubt.

Most of the experienced guys 50 years and older in my area use them and most would go out and buy a replacement unit the next day if they lost their one or severely damaged it. Having said that they're damned expensive for what they are and it would be hard for a young hunter with a few kids and a mortgage to do that or buy one in the first place. It won't make you a better hunter but it will certainly locate a lot more deer in the bush for you.




Both views pardoxically have some value. It varies so much on time of day,cover, and temperature, and also on the winds. If there is a steady breeze blowing under a cloudy sky, the wind tends to keep everything about the same temperature, so its possible to adjust the brightness and contrast to show anything thats above that general temperature level..  There are a lot of factors which only on the day  will decide if your thermal is a waste of space or not.

Sometimes in the day I drive 50km to work, shoot 15 minutes and give up with the thermal. On those questionable weather days/nights there should always be another rifle or scope handy. Everything I have is on quick change systems now.

At night however one is almost always assured of good results with a few exceptions.
  

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