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May 7th, 2019 at 6:56pm
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Hey guys
just a quick question regarding powder scales
I'd like an electric scale. Im Looking at the Lyman Pocket Touch.
Anyone out their know how well these perform.
I friend of mine has the full auto one and it seems ok. I don't do enough for one of those plus can't afford it.
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Reply #1 - May 7th, 2019 at 7:02pm
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Not the answer you want but buy Chargemaster Lite. Awesome kit.
  
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Reply #2 - May 7th, 2019 at 7:23pm
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my vote goes to LEE balance beam...cheap and reliable.
  
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Reply #3 - May 7th, 2019 at 7:37pm
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Micky Duck wrote on May 7th, 2019 at 7:23pm:
my vote goes to LEE balance beam...cheap and reliable.

+1 Used a LEE scale for over 34 years, does the job good enough.
  
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Reply #4 - May 7th, 2019 at 7:46pm
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I don't like the digital ones - when the batteries run down, they start giving you gibberish, instead of telling you the batteries are running out. Could be dangerous I think. Plus, they take batteries.

I didn't like the Lee beam, wasn't damped enough. Took ages to settle down, Maybe that was just the one I had.

Best powder scale I have is the Hornady one. Used for many years.
  
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Reply #5 - May 7th, 2019 at 7:53pm
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wow that was quick thanks guys
Funny thing is I have a lee balance and I don't find it all that consistent.
Ive loaded rounds and rechecked some of them to fined they are different to where they should be, Now I know what your thinking But I can be very sure I put the time in to get it right, checking zero having it set level and take my time, Ive been super fussy with this system, I think I might have a dud, I'm sure that on my particular scale it is possible to set the beam on any one of two balance points and not even know it until you recheck. Its not a lot of difference but enough and as I said, i'm super fussy.
Anyway its a long story but in the end I just don't trust it so a change is a coming.
Ill check out this chargemaster light though
So the lyman no good then ?
  
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Reply #6 - May 7th, 2019 at 7:57pm
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oooooh Chargemaster looks good but a little much for this kid.
for the amount that I do anyway
  
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Reply #7 - May 7th, 2019 at 10:58pm
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I highly recommend the Hornady balance scales. I think reloaders supplies in AKL had them.
  
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Reply #8 - May 8th, 2019 at 9:10am
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TWO balance points???????ummmmm that there is /will be your issue...like any measuring intrument it is either right of wrong,they have ONE place to set up and only ONE.  if you want to check it,tis a simple matter to weight a few projectiles in the sub 100grn range they should be withing say 2grns in weight....find one that is really close and use that as your check weight if you think things are squiffy.
  
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Reply #9 - May 8th, 2019 at 12:43pm
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Micky Duck wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 9:10am:
TWO balance points???????ummmmm that there is /will be your issue...like any measuring intrument it is either right of wrong,they have ONE place to set up and only ONE.  if you want to check it,tis a simple matter to weight a few projectiles in the sub 100grn range they should be withing say 2grns in weight....find one that is really close and use that as your check weight if you think things are squiffy.


yes done all that and I hear what your saying and the difference between the right and wrong is probably only .2gn+-. but when you want to do ladder test at .2 gn increment with say superformance it really matters.
I find .2 makes quite a difference with superformance, not so much with ADI but still Id like better consistence. don't mined which one is right or wrong so long as its consistent. I just fined with every different time I set up and do some rechecking I fined wee differences, what's right what's wrong? dunno.
Probably not so bad when you have the same load on going, as you set it up for that but when your doing load development and I have to take off the balance bar and reset or even if I bump it and reset.. do I know i got it right?..nope. As I say, I reckon I got a dud
Anyway I have a electric ordered now so Ill let yas know
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Reply #10 - May 16th, 2019 at 5:52pm
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Sooo I got a layman scale
just a wee pocket / battery powered one.
I pulled a bunch of made up rounds from my balance scale days and checked them. turns out to be about .4 gn variant and not many were bag on.
So did a bunch with the new scale and rechecked to fined about a .1 variant.

Pretty happy with that.

Just to let yas know
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Reply #11 - May 17th, 2019 at 10:13am
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Have used a Lyman D-5 beam scale I've had all my reloading life - paid $19.50 for it and it's all I ever needed.

Never used a battery scale.
  
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Reply #12 - May 17th, 2019 at 6:28pm
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SF90 wrote on May 17th, 2019 at 10:13am:
Have used a Lyman D-5 beam scale I've had all my reloading life - paid $19.50 for it and it's all I ever needed.
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Likewise, I have an RCBS 5/10 scale I bought in Timaru maybe 40 years ago, its the one with a vernier type drum for the 1/100th of grains & more than adequately accurate. When you read about bench rest shooters reloading at the bench & throwing powder with a powder thrower, no check weighing, then maybe it is easy to become too hung up on the last 1/100th of a grain, when other factors have bigger effect on accuracy.
  
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