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Apr 28th, 2019 at 9:59pm
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Heres an interesting article. Got a bit of everything in it. Pest control, bow hunting, 1080, the reaction of the human population at large, and best of all, killing wild cats.

The Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology’s data showed that shooters were responsible for 83 percent of feral-cat deaths nationally in the first year of Australia’s efforts. Most of the shooters carry guns, not bows, but most are, .....

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/25/magazine/australia-cat-killing.html

I came across a pride of cats not long ago tucked in under the scruby hillside on the edge of a lucern paddock where lots of rabbits gather.

Was usuing a thermal and at 100m it was hard to make out what the glowing moving mass was exactly. Moved up to about 50 meters and the image resolved itself in enough detail to make out about 15 cats of various sizes laying close and sometimes on top of each other in the long grass. They were pretty relaxed but was well aware of my presence. Guess they were resting up, sleeping and cleaning themselves. Must have been mothers, auntys, and young cats all in a bundle. There were already quite a lot of shot rabbits strewn over the paddock below them and bet they had the smell of blood in the breeze tickling their faces, so not in a hurry to move off at all, despite the rather loud crack of the Savage A17 semi auto the thermal was mounted on.. what an oppurtunity. Two full mags at hand and sitting comfortabley on a quad with a good shooting platform up front.. The only worry was, which one to shoot first.

I decided on the larger one, with what looked like a lot of kittens or young cats around it. As the whole group were all bunched up together it was pretty much standard ''bunny'' shooting starting at one side of a group and moving one at a time to the other.

Must have been mum that got the first shot as bout 5 or six small ones tried to get in even closer to her and were obviously confused enough to hang around, so the tactics changed and I moved to the left and started shooting the remaining members of the pride. They also seemed to be totally confused, for cats, what with the shots coming out of the dark rapid fire, they all went down.

I then went back to the younger ones at moms side, which was a pittifull thing, but they are wild cats and every one of them had suddenly lived its nine lives.. bit less than two mags later and less than a minute or so and the dirty work was done.

Never seen anything like it. Often enough youll see 2 or 3 sneaking around near to each other but this was quite a suprise. They are well gone.

 

  

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They are bloody bad in WA,  I would hate to know how many we shot in the 3 yrs we lived there but would be the high hundreds mayby just over a thousand. used to shot 50+ every outing and the dogs would get a couple a week,  and about once a month me and the wife would hear a horrible squawk from our gilar cocky and rush outside,  sometimes a cat on the porch but a few times they would have our parrot freind through the cage  Angry

an interesting observation was the 1st year I was there there were not very many around even tho there had been a 2 or 3 year mouse plague with abundant food, but foxes were plentifull would get 100+ a night 5 cats would be alot, we smashed the population and the boss was stoked as the lamb survival almost doubled  Shocked but unintended consequence we had removed cats predators and they exploded  Undecided

duno what its like there now as that was 10yr ago and have been a few mouse plagues since.

  
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I came across a large female with about 7 or 8 little ones a few years ago up Hyde way.  What I found interesting was the kittens eye shine was a bright blue compared to the typical green.
Once mum had been taken care of the kittens didn't know what to do and were easily cleaned up.
Wild cats are certainly my favourite small game animal to knock over as well.
  
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A few yrs ago HC and I were out one night moon lighting,we came across  5 wild cats,some 3/4 grown.HCs  243 was the order of the night.Well cats were exploding everywhere.HC doesn't miss much. Wink
  

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Best ever cat shot was a few years ago: Had stopped the truck to tip over a couple of hares @ 2 hundy or so. Had just stood up from leaning over the bonnet dropping them and heard a scurry across the gravel behind us. Black cat @20m making a break for it. Pivoted the  .308 around on the hip and fired instinctively. Cat finished its dash to the far side of the road in two pieces Huh  Made up for about 5 years of misses Cool Cool Cool

I've always found cats eyes to shine back bluey white, instead of green? I've come across them way high too. 1400m.
  
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Grin Grin Amazing what you do on pure reflex action without thinking about is too much.. just instinct.  I find when I hesitate for some reason before taking the shot it often ends in a cockup.
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Grin Grin Amazing what you do on pure reflex action without thinking abiout is too much.. just instict.  I find when I hesitate for some reason before taking the shot it often ends in a cockup.


Back on the bunnie board days,Central Otago one would be down the road pretty smart if a boss happened ti see a rabbiter   scone a feral cat while out on the job. They kept the bunnies at bay.
Bird life was thick on the ground and everywhere else in those days also. No hipe over a pussy like there is tiday Roll Eyes

  

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Some of the places I work am told dont shoot the cats. Most want them gone too. Yes they knock of a few young ones but they are also killing of any other small thing like frogs, and lizards. I think they are better gone..
  

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That was a great article HC.  Are you happy with the A17?  I am in the market for a semi auto rimfire and a nice bolt action 223...
  

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Hi Massive.. I've gone back to a bolt action of late because of jamming issues using that a17 ammo you found the many split cases on.  Just couldn't seem to beat the problem so the gun..my second of this model is sitting in the corner..so to speak.  I'm liking the bolt action at the mo because of better feed reliability and way quieter.
  

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Reply #10 - May 3rd, 2019 at 9:19pm
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Ferals are brutal on pheasants. They get lead any time I see them.
  
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how often you cleaning the a17 HC?  mates one was doing it bad with any ammo and was cleaning the blood and bita crc after petfood nights,  stopped doing it and after a brick of ammo it came right he gave it a clean a few weeks ago and 1st mag after that it started jamming again
  
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Started cleaning it every 300 rounds with the A17 ammo. Thought the ammo itself and the powder might be the problem. The the so called ''blowback'' system they have developed seems to leave  residue of tiny round balls of unburned granules, which finds  its ways into all parts including the trigger. Paid particular attention to the breach itself too and the bolt face and bits and pieces.. nothing worked. After 100 rounds it seemed to start giving problems.. and then big time.. I think there is a problem, one of them, with the long spring which applys forward pressure on the block. Im thinking that its spiral form when fully compressed actually catchs on the end of the tube it moves in.. you can feel it..

Have given up for the moment, but might have another go at it. The gun was sure a helluva lot of fun to use when it was running smoothly.

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EC wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 10:48am:
headcase wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:08pm:
Grin Grin Amazing what you do on pure reflex action without thinking abiout is too much.. just instict.  I find when I hesitate for some reason before taking the shot it often ends in a cockup.


Back on the bunnie board days,Central Otago one would be down the road pretty smart if a boss happened ti see a rabbiter   scone a feral cat while out on the job. They kept the bunnies at bay.
Bird life was thick on the ground and everywhere else in those days also. No hipe over a pussy like there is tiday Roll Eyes




Yeah, I leave them alone as well. Feral cats live almost entirely on rodents and young rabbits.
  
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I whacked them over. Still do.
  
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Carlsen Highway wrote on May 9th, 2019 at 5:00pm:
EC wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 10:48am:
headcase wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:08pm:
Grin Grin Amazing what you do on pure reflex action without thinking abiout is too much.. just instict.  I find when I hesitate for some reason before taking the shot it often ends in a cockup.


Back on the bunnie board days,Central Otago one would be down the road pretty smart if a boss happened ti see a rabbiter   scone a feral cat while out on the job. They kept the bunnies at bay.
Bird life was thick on the ground and everywhere else in those days also. No hipe over a pussy like there is tiday Roll Eyes




Yeah, I leave them alone as well. Feral cats live almost entirely on rodents and young rabbits.


Some farmers like them, some dont. Might depend on which area your in too. Round the Mackenzie in the tussock have seldom seen a mouse or rat outside settlements or towns.  Smiley
  

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I'm not convinced. I open up most cats I shoot: Skinks feature a lot. Also feathers Sad
  
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IMO - cats should be close to the top of the predator list in a rural farm environment - maybe not so in the bush
I have seen plenty of examples of cats stripping Pheasant carcases - they pick them carefully to the last bone - when I had my rural block I would set a cage and get them most times
I live in a rural/residential block of 30 houses so walk the perimeter most days - one resident has a Bengal tiger cat - I often see it hunting the plentiful supply of pukeko - he drags them off and eats them - fairly clean
I trap the local Quarry Park - I had a surprise yesterday to get a kitten in a Snap-e trap - well clamped but probably died slowly - 50m up the track I have a doc250 - another kitten probably died quickly
But there will still be Mum and the rest of the kittens around - I left the kitten on top of the box - so may get another one - I will have to try a low mount sentinel with some meat - I cant use a cage as I don’t want to go up there every day
It has been a good trap site lately with two ferrets in that doc250 in the last few weeks - Mum and then the young one came back to find her 







  
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Good on you Cruz. Dedicated. I also have had a few in rabbit snares.

They must go bananas. If the snare is on a fence line they invariably throw themselves over the bottom or middle strand and hang themselves. Not pretty. Even I have a heart, small and cold, so stopped setting snares. It was becoming a daily occurrence at the time. Numbers have overall been reduced in the Mackenzie or big chunks of it anyway.

Once we would shoot several a night. The areas where this occurred we are lucky t see even one a night now,, maybe one a week. The single small rabbit a cat catches a day is small potatoes against the hundreds of rabbits shot in high density areas shot in a single night.

Same as hedgehogs. Used to see 5-10 a night but of late only at certain times of the year might pick up 1 or 2 in the cross hairs. They have also been reduced to low levels where control work is done. 

If I was not going to shoot anything it would be ferrets as they really do kill heaps, voracious little critters, but they have now gone right back too due to the intensive trapping program though the whole area. That has been responsible for decimating the ferret population. Good job.

Thank goodness we never got foxes as GH talks about. They can carry rabbies which we are blessed not to have in NZ?
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The wee fellas been catching a few around home since all the surrounding areas crops have been harvested and reseeded we see them almost daily. hes got 4 in the last 3weeks along with 3 possums, he gets 5 bux each so its not bad pocket money for a 4 yr old  Smiley  all he wanted for his bday was a possum trap so got a cage one and works good and he can set it himself.
  
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Smacked two at the weekend with the 50gr ZMax.
  

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And did they go down quickly with the z max.  Cats are tough more often than not.
  

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And did they go down quickly with the z max.  Cats are tough more often than not.


First one went down like a sack of spuds. second one leapt in the air and jumped around for a few mins. Missing most of its brains.

  

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Every time we go out for a night shoot we prob shoot 5 or 6 heaps of the little critters around atm 223 makes a nice pop
  
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Interesting thread this. I need to set the record straight on a couple things.
1. Cats will live off the back of a rabbit population but that does not mean they are not major predators of other native species. Predator numbers (and all animals for that matter) are governed by food availibility. Cats can have a huge impact on lizards in particular. One cat opened up had 32 inside its gut so that was not many days worth. They also eat plenty birds when they can. Some of our native birds spend some time on the ground between nest and flying and cats are well aware of this. What about our little blue penguins? Ouch! Farmers who think they help keep on top of the rabbits are often sadly mistaken. The studies have shown that predators really only have an impact when prey numbers are well down. Outside of that they simply cant keep up. Rabbit numbers are more governed by other environmental factors far more than predation. If you have lots rabbits though you will probably have lots cats and if ferret country, ferrets too. I have done cat jobs for farms to help manage toxo which is a shocker for sheep farmers. I don't know of a farmer here who wants cats left alone. PAPP is proving to be extremely effectice at heavily reducing feral cat numbers when used correctly. Up to 90% reduction post op! Keep your barrels warm. They are a bigger issue than many give them credit for and some of them sleep by the fire. As much as I am not a fan of extra rules and laws we should be requiring all domestic cats to be chipped and de sexed unless a registered breeder. Many ferals live undisturbed near towns etc as people think they belong to someone.
  
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the .270 winchester is not too much gun for a cat...mine has accounted for many over the years.
funny the origonal post reminds me of the biggest cats Ive ever seen,out spotlighting possums and rabbits one night we saw 3 cats surrounding rabbits in a dish like depression.got 2 with .22magnum straight away and the 3rd a little while later when dogs got it out of scrub...they were about 3" across between the ears and were definately litter mates hunting together.
  
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Sneaka wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 7:36am:
we should be requiring all domestic cats to be chipped and de sexed


A few of us can offer our services to (lead) chip and desex cats if required..... Roll Eyes
  
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Sneaka wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 7:36am:
Interesting thread this. I need to set the record straight on a couple things.
1. Cats will live off the back of a rabbit population but that does not mean they are not major predators of other native species. Predator numbers (and all animals for that matter) are governed by food availibility. Cats can have a huge impact on lizards in particular. One cat opened up had 32 inside its gut so that was not many days worth. They also eat plenty birds when they can. Some of our native birds spend some time on the ground between nest and flying and cats are well aware of this. What about our little blue penguins? Ouch! Farmers who think they help keep on top of the rabbits are often sadly mistaken. The studies have shown that predators really only have an impact when prey numbers are well down. Outside of that they simply cant keep up. Rabbit numbers are more governed by other environmental factors far more than predation. If you have lots rabbits though you will probably have lots cats and if ferret country, ferrets too. I have done cat jobs for farms to help manage toxo which is a shocker for sheep farmers. I don't know of a farmer here who wants cats left alone. PAPP is proving to be extremely effectice at heavily reducing feral cat numbers when used correctly. Up to 90% reduction post op! Keep your barrels warm. They are a bigger issue than many give them credit for and some of them sleep by the fire. As much as I am not a fan of extra rules and laws we should be requiring all domestic cats to be chipped and de sexed unless a registered breeder. Many ferals live undisturbed near towns etc as people think they belong to someone.

Mr Morgan was right. They serve no purpose in NZ.The predation they do to our native birds is diabolical. Kill every last one of them.Have had some near misses of going over the bank on country roads trying to bowl them at night.My 2C.
  
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Feral cats are everywhere - possibly our worst bird predator outside of genuine bush country!
I got a big Norway in that box and some buggar chewed off its tail and legs - so I left it on top of the box -  I came back a few days later, the rat was gone and the cat was inside - hard to believe how cats and large ferrets can get inside a doc250


  
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I let three go so far this year. Smiley

Actually it amazes me that people get so riled up about cats, deer pigs etc when it comes to wrecking the native enviroment.
Just drive from Dunedin to Te Anau, and all you see is farmland.
People are the scourge. We have changed the face of 90% of this country and turned in into pasture.
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I do not understand how any thinking outdoors person can let three wild cats go.  Frankly I think that is a ridiculous thing to do.  I have lived in rural N.Z. for thirty years now.  My property is about trees, birds and animals.  The curse is cats moving in from adjoining subdivision housing. I will kill every cat that I can.
  

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Just drive from Dunedin to Te Anau, and all you see is farmland.
But farming is fine. 


Just drive from Albany to Drury, and all you see is brick and concrete, the reason why we need that farmland for.
  
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No farming, no food, no people. Simple equation.
  
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XRhunter wrote on Jul 5th, 2019 at 7:05pm:
No farming, no food, no people. Simple equation.

I have swapped some comments with you on this site and always respected what you input, then I read this comment and thought what the heck what a ridiculous comment. He is broken.
Then I read the previous comments,  have to say I see where you are coming from and agree with your comment in context.
  
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Reply #34 - Jul 5th, 2019 at 8:01pm
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Carlsen Highway wrote on Jul 4th, 2019 at 5:17pm:
I let three go so far this year. Smiley

Actually it amazes me that people get so riled up about cats, deer pigs etc when it comes to wrecking the native enviroment.
Just drive from Dunedin to Te Anau, and all you see is farmland.
People are the scourge. We have changed the face of 90% of this country and turned in into pasture.
But farming is fine. 

Weird thinking there,
Would you let people go if you trapped them.
  
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Re: Killing Cats
Reply #35 - Jul 5th, 2019 at 8:40pm
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Yeah, should have added a tad more context. And even as a farmer I quite often get riled seeing what is happening around the countryside these days.
But we've been farming for the last 10,000 years. Since moving on from being hunter-gatherers. If we don't farm, there's no food, and people gotta eat something.

Its all about personal perspective. I see value in game animals as I like seeing them in the bush, and they are tasty.  Only a few hundred years ago other hunters would have seen other game animals in the bush, liked seeing them there, and also found them tasty.

I don't see value in cats. Least not in the wild, and most goodie two shoes cat owners don't have the heart to restrain them.
Bang! flop. Amen.
  
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Reply #36 - Jul 6th, 2019 at 3:02pm
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Grandad wrote on Jul 5th, 2019 at 6:38pm:
I do not understand how any thinking outdoors person can let three wild cats go.  Frankly I think that is a ridiculous thing to do.  I have lived in rural N.Z. for thirty years now.  My property is about trees, birds and animals.  The curse is cats moving in from adjoining subdivision housing. I will kill every cat that I can.


Bravo.. death to all wild cats. Show no mercy.
  

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Re: Killing Cats
Reply #37 - Jul 7th, 2019 at 10:07pm
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killing cats is too easy,,i got 5 ferrets with one wheel Grin   Grin
talking of wild cats whats happened to gareth morgan..very quiet there
  

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Re: Killing Cats
Reply #38 - Jul 8th, 2019 at 11:13am
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Thanks for the link to imgbb Headcase - just seeing if it works - Photobucket has tricked me into making a change - now I cant use it without paying them money - they reckon I have too many images stored - stuff them!
I agree with you Grandad - cats are one of our worst bird predators - they will be doing serious damage around your wet lands
We have likely discussed the issue previously about options to catch cats - I don’t have a lot of success with kill traps but I have had a lot of success with cages - cats will go for most baits with a strong odour as will ferrets - rabbit being the best option but cat food in tins or sachets or a tin of sardines works well
We trap predators around our rural/residential street of 29 houses in the PFBOP system - 125 predators so far this year - mainly rats and quite a few hogs - we soon realised there were large animals around so one guy set a cage - three ferrets so far - yet to catch a cat - the Quail are responding to less predators - often see a flock of 20 around the various property gardens - they know when they are safe
Good work on the ferrets 264Magic - careful you don’t run off the road!


  
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Re: Killing Cats
Reply #39 - Sep 30th, 2019 at 8:24pm
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Hi Cruz, thanks for posting. A pic is always welcome.  Smiley
  

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