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Re: T3 .223 Load development
Reply #15 - Apr 4th, 2019 at 9:55pm
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oh and also...the whole 1 in 8 thing isnt as big of deal as its made out to be...sure you could use a 80grn projectile but to my mind if you are going to do that you may aswell be using a twoforfree....and personally I would use my .223 before resorting to a EBRG....I either pick my shots or let animal walk away.
  
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Reply #16 - Apr 6th, 2019 at 6:09pm
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Shot a big bodied 8 pointer this morning which came charging like a freight train from about 30m front on in the throat with the 55gr TTSX and load mentioned earlier here which axed him instantly. Lights out before he hit the ground.
Thought that was pretty good giving the swollen neck and the way he was pumped up, ready for a fight and running at full tilt. The mighty .223 & TTSX combo  Wink
  
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Re: T3 .223 Load development
Reply #17 - Apr 6th, 2019 at 9:17pm
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Really looking forward to some of these TTSX arriving. I am going to try the AR2206 over the H335, purely because I could not source any 335 locally.

"at sub hundy yards the wound channel is SIMILAR to a 130 grn .270 but in reverse."

This fills me with confidence as I also have a Sako .270, my go to round being Hornady TTSX in 130 grn. I dont really like to use it much now days and keep reaching for my .223 as the recoil is much less and it makes a much smaller bang, my Vizlsa seems to appreciate the little pop instead of the big  bang  Grin Grin
  
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Reply #18 - Apr 6th, 2019 at 9:27pm
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why 130grn ttsx in poohseventy...run the figures and you will see the 110s will quite simply crap all over the heavier ones all day long. the faster speed from outset boosts energy figures and the heavies never quite catch up.... oh and the 110s dont kick at all hardly. Wink big bang is fixed by a suppressor Wink Wink
  
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Reply #19 - Apr 7th, 2019 at 8:34am
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Micky Duck wrote on Apr 6th, 2019 at 9:27pm:
why 130grn ttsx in poohseventy...run the figures and you will see the 110s will quite simply crap all over the heavier ones all day long. the faster speed from outset boosts energy figures and the heavies never quite catch up.... oh and the 110s dont kick at all hardly. Wink big bang is fixed by a suppressor Wink Wink

100% correct.
I load the 110gr TTSX for a friend and his 270 and they are pretty mild but deadly compared with the 130gr Nosler he used to run. Don't understand this as the energy the bullet has when leaving the barrel is equal to the recoil the shooter feels with the same rifle but he recons it doesn't kick as much.
  
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Reply #20 - Apr 7th, 2019 at 4:27pm
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shifting a lighter payload produces less recoil.... but yes they have much more mild recoil...dare I say it you are turning the mighty poohseventy into a twoforfree.....recoil is comparable.
  
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Re: T3 .223 Load development
Reply #21 - Apr 14th, 2019 at 11:38am
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BC wrote on Apr 1st, 2019 at 6:07am:
I couldn't get the 55 TTSX to shoot until I tried 2208 and then I was away. 3180 from a 20" barrel and little groups.

Killing wise I have found them a step up from cup & core projectiles of the same weight.


How much powder for this load? Always thought 2208 was designed for bigger boilers ...22-250 etc.
  
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Reply #22 - Apr 16th, 2019 at 4:52pm
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Don't see any reference to 2207??.
Been using this in the .222 with a 55 gr Hornady Soft Point Average results at best really.
Maybe time for a look at 2208 or BM1
  
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Reply #23 - Apr 17th, 2019 at 10:02am
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Has anyone tried a subsonic .223 load? I assume it has to travel about 1065 fps or under? And then then would obviously effect the projectile performance, i.e how much it would mushroom so some may be better than others.

Interested in anyone's thoughts.
  
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Re: T3 .223 Load development
Reply #24 - Apr 17th, 2019 at 1:04pm
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sako wrote on Apr 14th, 2019 at 11:38am:
BC wrote on Apr 1st, 2019 at 6:07am:
I couldn't get the 55 TTSX to shoot until I tried 2208 and then I was away. 3180 from a 20" barrel and little groups.

Killing wise I have found them a step up from cup & core projectiles of the same weight.


How much powder for this load? Always thought 2208 was designed for bigger boilers ...22-250 etc.


27 grains 2208 & 55 grain TTSX (223)
  

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Re: T3 .223 Load development
Reply #25 - Apr 18th, 2019 at 7:59am
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Thanks. Bought some yesterday. Will run up a brew for the new box.
  
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Re: T3 .223 Load development
Reply #26 - Apr 18th, 2019 at 8:26am
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HeadHunter wrote on Apr 17th, 2019 at 10:02am:
Has anyone tried a subsonic .223 load? I assume it has to travel about 1065 fps or under? And then then would obviously effect the projectile performance, i.e how much it would mushroom so some may be better than others.


Use 4.1gr of TrailBoss for a 55gr Sp SX in the 15" barrel and works good on wallabies down Rotorua in thick bush while deer stalking and on goats if you head shot them out to 30m or so. Would NOT recommend them for anything bigger or further away. No or not much expansion but loading the bullet the wrong way around seems to give a better wack. There are lead bullets for the 223 out there that will expand but box is 1000x and wasn't too keen to buy that many for just a play. Might need gas checks as well I would think if you go down that road but no experience here, sorry.
  
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Re: T3 .223 Load development
Reply #27 - Apr 18th, 2019 at 7:59pm
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headhunter...as I said to others back when they asked first time around.....by making a .22 centrefire subsonic you are getting nothing more than a subsonic .22magnum and only a small increase over .22lr subsonic so you can only expect the same amount of terminal power.....enough for very close precise shot placement or a wounded pissed off animal. good for possums/hares or finishing shot..... the ONLY advantage over a much more reliable supersonic round is noise... the supersonic has all the cards.
  
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Re: T3 .223 Load development
Reply #28 - Apr 18th, 2019 at 8:08pm
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Micky Duck wrote on Apr 18th, 2019 at 7:59pm:
headhunter...as I said to others back when they asked first time around.....by making a .22 centrefire subsonic you are getting nothing more than a subsonic .22magnum and only a small increase over .22lr subsonic so you can only expect the same amount of terminal power.....enough for very close precise shot placement or a wounded pissed off animal. good for possums/hares or finishing shot..... the ONLY advantage over a much more reliable supersonic round is noise... the supersonic has all the cards.


You've basically answered my question and what i was wondering. I wondered if it would be similar to a .22lr. And as there's no other benefit i wont bother looking into it. It was just a query i had.
  
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Re: T3 .223 Load development
Reply #29 - Apr 19th, 2019 at 5:54pm
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There is one important benefit having a subsonic .223 over a subsonic .22lr though  Roll Eyes
  
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