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Ruger Ar 556
Nov 18th, 2018 at 7:01am
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Hi all

Just wondering if anyone on here has one of the Ruger 556ís?
Be interested to hear the good and the bad, Iím down sizing from a bolt action as I think my hunting days are behind me and looking for something to muck around with on informal ranges?


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Re: Ruger Ar 556
Reply #1 - Nov 18th, 2018 at 1:03pm
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Iíve had one in my possession and liked it for accuracy but they arenít lightweight especially after putting on a descent scope & then the suppressor where it weighed a bit but not as heavy as my old SLR L1A1

There piston operated which adds to the weight, this is a good design fir a battle rifle but for hunting here in NZ itís not that much of a battle feild.

Personally if I was looking for a AR type rifle Iíd either built my own as there a lego rifle or look at a lightweight option... I was looking at the S&W M&P rifles but thereís so many to choose from
  

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Re: Ruger Ar 556
Reply #2 - Nov 18th, 2018 at 11:16pm
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Cheers, yeah Iíve been looking and umming and ahhhing over them for a few months, checked a couple out in store with the Hera stocks but bare bones in terms of scopes or suppressors and thought they were ok weight wise and really kind of dinky in size but checked out a scope rifle package last week and had a change of heart, surprised how much such a small rifle with a scope weighed. Would be looking to put an Armorworx A cat stock on later so guess might drop a few grams.
That all said it would just be carried from my truck to the shooting bench on most of its outings.
There are sooooo many AR options out there, but Iím on a bit of a budget and the 1:8 twist appeals for heavier bullets in case I do want to take it bush.
  
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Reply #3 - Nov 19th, 2018 at 9:11am
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What is your budget and where do you intend buying the Ruger from?
  

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Re: Ruger Ar 556
Reply #4 - Nov 19th, 2018 at 7:17pm
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For not much more than the Ruger, NZAR15 can build a decent custom rifle with a ballistic advantage premium 1:8 barrel.
For a factory gun the Ruger is not good value. There's much better options out there for less.
  

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Reply #5 - Nov 19th, 2018 at 8:17pm
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Hey again

Well to be honest the $1800 that the Ruger goes for is about my max, Iíd been wanting an Ar for a few years and for some reason had decided on a Windham but never seemed to have the spare $2500 plus in my pocket. Looking to pick up at one of the Akl stores as I get up there for work a bit.
Have heard custom/build your own can be better and sometimes cheaper but a little unsure of that side of things. Have scoured you tube ad nauseam for reviews, all seem to say the same thing about the Ruger, a decent budget, entry level rifle.
The only cons were a couple of cycling issues with one review and an indication that it could be prone to light surface dusting.
  
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Reply #6 - Nov 19th, 2018 at 8:55pm
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Pity I didn't see this earlier, I just sold one in mint condition, with CQR stock, scoped with spare parts and three mags for $1500! Haha. I liked it for what I used it for, but they are heavy and not the most ergonomic rifle to carry around. Mine shot mint, and never had a jam or misfire.
  
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Reply #7 - Nov 19th, 2018 at 9:21pm
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Bugger! Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
  
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Reply #8 - Nov 19th, 2018 at 10:21pm
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The Rugers and Windhams are massively overpriced in NZ. We sell the Windhams for around $1000 less than HF.
Windhams are very over rated too. They are still stuck on a format that was popular 10 years ago, and have hangovers from the bushmaster days like commercial buffer tubes.
I think our Windhams are currently priced at $1699. We sell better guns for less too.
  

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Reply #9 - Nov 21st, 2018 at 8:04am
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I've built a few AR platforms and they are anywhere between; lighter than an unloaded Tikka T3 through to same weight as an L1A1.

What Digit recommended is my suggestion in terms of sorting a custom build to suit your purposes but perhaps don't buy the premium/most expensive product for some parts..
for example One useful thing NZAR15 has is a bunch of triggers mounted on pistol grips to try.
I've seen them at a few expos.
The most expensive doesn't always mean the best or most fit for purpose.
Some spend hundreds on a part then find they aren't fit for purpose.

for example The trigger I've found most fit for my purpose is a factory MILSPEC trigger with a $10 JP Enterprises spring set.
In two lowers I have a crisp 3.5lb pull and zero creep.
Another has 4lb pull and only the slightest creep.
A mate splashed out $700 on a trigger and while light and ergonomic it has slight creep and required more money spent on locks for the trigger pins to stop them walking out.

WHen I started out I had a browse of various models and people at the range let me try various setups.
I then found basically what I was after online.
I then bought the parts fairly close to that model.
  
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Re: Ruger Ar 556
Reply #10 - Dec 17th, 2018 at 2:24am
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Owned a few ARs, NEA good DPMS oracle good.
Built a couple from parts from here and there.
Was going to buy a ruger AR556 until a mate at club showed up with one, Lots of issues with his with failing to chamber a round from the mag. The bolt would rub against the round below it in the mag as it was chambering and would come to a halt and put a big scrape and dent in the round it was rubbing against. Bit of polishing and heaps of use it came right, Another club member had one with no problems from memory.
I didn't like the small hand guards they came with. My dpms has run super reliable, I got the dpms off nzar15 before they pulled the pin on him due to pressure from another supplier in NZ.
  
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Re: Ruger Ar 556
Reply #11 - Jan 21st, 2019 at 10:34pm
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Hi again folks

Well had my Ruger for 6 weeks or so, was appreciative of members feedback and experiences prior to buying it and thought I would just jot down a couple of lines regarding mine in case this pops up in anybody elseís search on the subject.
Have only put 100-120 rounds thru it so far ( took 6 years to do that in my 7-08 Smiley) heck of a lot of fun.
Tried the iron sights at maybe 30-40m turns out Iím blind, but still a blast. Got a Warne mount for my Leupold and holy! Was really impressed, took it down to an informal range on a couple of occasions, quite gusty conditions and just on a bench with a backpack under the front and a sandbag at the back. Really surprisingly good groups, some ammo better than others but managed to pull off (fluke) an 18mm 3 shot group. This is a budget AR with a 16 inch barrel!!! As mentioned did the you tube thing prior to buying and it seemed to standout amongst other in that regard and I havenít been disappointed.
Only downside has been when tried fitting Uncle Mikes quick detach sling swivels on it, came with an armaworx stock and the swivel fits fine that end but the base on the front sight/gas block doesnít look like itís been machined deeply enough to allow ball bearings to seat properly, bit of a pain tbh but have replaced the handguard with Magpul MLock so will just get a sling base for that.
The other thing I didnít fully appreciate was how loud loading it was. Donít like shooting beasties anymore really and so flicked the Tikka to buy this but still love to go bush and always a chance Iíll have a change of heart if I saw one. Iím fine with carrying it UN-loaded as I feel happier with the piece of mind but know Iím going to probably ruin any chance of getting the drop on any unsuspecting animal.
Anyway just a quick follow up.
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Re: Ruger Ar 556
Reply #12 - Jan 22nd, 2019 at 9:11pm
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I don't know if this will be any help but it's what I've done and i know others too. Note I've never bothered about manufacturing half cocks etc and i do this with bolt rifles too.

Outside a hunting zone
-no round in the chamber

Entering a hunting zone
-round in the chamber
-safety on
-two hands on the rifle

It's what works for me hunting and at work.
I've carried machineguns and rifles in dense bush at work using this method and it's perfectly safe.

If you envisage yourself entering and leaving hunting zones often make sure to cycle the rounds in your magazine.
This applies to any semi auto with a free float firing pin.
When you close the action the firing pin leaves a small indent in the primer. Do this enough times to the same round and it may soft prime (fire).
I've only seen it happen once and the guy did it approx 60 times and it was on purpose.
First round he tried 100 times nothing happened. It was the second round he did it to that fired
  
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Re: Ruger Ar 556
Reply #13 - Jan 31st, 2019 at 9:31am
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Cheers Goon

Tbh I just donít trust myself with just the safety on while walking, often have the dog with me whoís favourite thing is often to try and trip me up, and if itís not the dog then itís my own two left feet!
Very interesting to learn about the soft prime thing!
  
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