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7mm rem mag options
Nov 9th, 2018 at 11:43am
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Hoping you guys can shed some light on the pills you are using. Application will be red stags and bull tahr. 1:8 twist so im thinking heavy will be the go. The 180 eld-m makes me nervous at close going at speed so was wondering if anyone had been using the 175 eld-x and how have you found performance in close and out past 500? Any other "do it all pills" you think are worth a thought?

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Re: 7mm rem mag options
Reply #1 - Nov 9th, 2018 at 12:34pm
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Youíll get the 180 eld-m doing around 2800fps now based on my experience with the 162ís youíll be fine.. I never had a 162 do anything silly under 3000 fps... I havenít used the 180 yet so itís only speculation but itís what Iíll be loading soon.. 1-8 twist will be mint for this bullet !
  

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Reply #2 - Nov 9th, 2018 at 9:51pm
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Thanks for the reply i_e. Would love to get the 180's going, the 162s have worked a treat out of my 7mm08 even at close range so maybe ill stick to the eldms. Be keen to hear from anyone using the eldxs in 7mm rem mag and how they have gone!
  
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Reply #3 - Nov 10th, 2018 at 8:20am
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180s will be fine at close range, but 8 twist is quite aggressive for a soft jacketed projectile like that (mine has 8.7 twist).
Shouldn't be a problem unless you push them too hard (you should get 2800-2850 fps).
I'd try the 180s and see if your rifle likes them.
If not, the 175s would be a good option too.
I keep reading about "bullet blow up" that suggests the pieces just disappear, but 180 grains of jacket, cup and lead will still penetrate and cause significant damage. That's what makes the ELD-M so good at long range. On bull tahr rear lung shots would provide better penetration than shoulder shots at close range if you are still concerned.

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Reply #4 - Nov 20th, 2018 at 4:52pm
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shot a number of deer now with the 180 eldm including one at 50m last week, went straight through the shoulder exiting causing a huge amount of damage. muzzle velocity 3090fps. i wouldn't worry about them blowing up although this did cross my mind before i pulled the trigger.

have shot goats out to long ranges and they preform well there too. i think the berger 180 vlds seem to expand a bit faster at lower velocity in my experience. i have not shot anything inside 300 yards with these though to comment on close range performance.
  
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Reply #5 - Nov 20th, 2018 at 8:10pm
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I havenít used the 180 VLDs, but I have read that the jacket thickness was increased some years ago following complaints from US shooters that they were shedding jackets at high velocities. I think the issue was very aggressive twist rates combined with high velocity. Anyway, the result is that they are reputedly not as good at lower velocity as they once were.

Sounds like the 180 ELD-M are doing the job even close up even at high velocity of 3090.
  
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Reply #6 - Nov 21st, 2018 at 12:00pm
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interesting re the bergers, they still seem softer than the eldm to me, which is not a bad thing at longer ranges on animals. sample size a lot smaller than the eldm though as i have just started using them for hunting.
  
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Reply #7 - Nov 21st, 2018 at 8:03pm
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I have no experience of the VLDs, so canít confirm what I have read. Would be interesting to jear what others think based on experience on game.
  
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