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Sub sonic deer projectiles
Sep 6th, 2018 at 8:10pm
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So this has possibly been done to death previously. But here goes..... I have a Howa Mini 7.62x39. It works well on larger game using the 123 gn SST load in the Hornady training ammo. I worked up a sub sonic load for it using the 150gn SST. Animals hit in the shoulder would die but often run a reasonable distance before keeling over. The projectiles would sometimes exit too. I need to find a sub sonic load that drops deer more like when they are hit with a good super sonic projectile. Within 10m of hit site for shoulder shots if possible. It obviously needs to demonstrate some serious internal damage. I think I need to look at a purpose designed projectile and the Lee High seems to crop up a lot. Unfortunately these only come in 30 cal. I have been told by others that you can shoot 30 cal in a .311 bore, but even with that my twist rate is not the desired 1:7 for these projectiles anyway. I am starting to think that I may need to look at a 300 Blackout purpose built with the Lee Highs in mind. I would keep my shots within the specs for what I am using. If anyone has any thoughts then I am all ears. Without sounding like a prick, I would like to hear from people who have actually been there done that with various subby projectiles on deer etc. rather than read or heard about it. Many thanks, Sneaka
  
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Re: Sub sonic deer projectiles
Reply #1 - Sep 6th, 2018 at 8:29pm
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robert/shootersnz makes a very good 151grn cast hollow point.
I HAVENT shot a deer with them yet other than finisher into head....I HAVE shot 2 goats and about 10 sheep all head shot at ranges from 50 yards to spitting range....the ONLY recovered projectile is 14mm across.
that would be the very first place I would suggest you try.
accuracy is plenty good enough through my norinco x39mm....not what you were after but may help.
  
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Re: Sub sonic deer projectiles
Reply #2 - Sep 7th, 2018 at 8:07am
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My experience with 150 gn up to 220 gn subbies in my .308 is that they lack the high velocity shock to drop an animal in its tracks, unless hit in the head or neck. Yes they penetrate well and yes they will kill, but only after bleeding out.....whilst running many hundreds of meters if you are unlucky. And with head/neck shots out to 150 you need a drop chart table and range finder as they have a trajectory resembling an arrow Tongue
But when it works its very satisfying. Pfffft ---Thock!
  
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Re: Sub sonic deer projectiles
Reply #3 - Sep 9th, 2018 at 10:14am
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Iíve had extensive experience with subs in a 1:7 twist 12Ē 300 blackout bolt action. Mostly using Lehigh 194gr ME and 168gr CF for deer body heart/lung shots only with devastating internal injuries. But also used many other projectiles for head and neck shots on deer,pigs,goats.

I havenít used Roberts 151gr HP casts in a 7.62x39, got 3 deer with them in my 300 blackout but I can only single feed them on an empty magazine through the ejection port which is a pain if you got multiple animals to knock over. They work great for goat control. Also for coons and mountain hares for dog tucker while deer stalking. The other great thing there cheap as chips and not a big outlay for someone to get into subs if itís for them or not as itís a lot of work too get consistent velocityís and learning drops at range beyond 60m.
  
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Re: Sub sonic deer projectiles
Reply #4 - Sep 13th, 2018 at 12:32am
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XRhunter wrote on Sep 7th, 2018 at 8:07am:
My experience with 150 gn up to 220 gn subbies in my .308 is that they lack the high velocity shock to drop an animal in its tracks, unless hit in the head or neck. Yes they penetrate well and yes they will kill, but only after bleeding out.....whilst running many hundreds of meters if you are unlucky. And with head/neck shots out to 150 you need a drop chart table and range finder as they have a trajectory resembling an arrow Tongue
But when it works its very satisfying. Pfffft ---Thock!

+1 - exactly wot he said is what I experienced with my setup too.
  
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