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Aug 22nd, 2018 at 8:29am
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Anyone in NZ stock Ramrods? Preferably the unbreakable ones. I broke the one on my 58 cal today, won`t go into detail but it involved Gun Powder  Cheesy
  
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Reply #1 - Aug 22nd, 2018 at 9:44pm
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Ha, ha, ha, you shot the bugger down range - didn't you.

What are the unbreakable ones - plastic ?

Went through all that some years ago - and couldn't find any thing in NZ, so bought a swag from Track of the Wolf in the States.
Got some Hickory and those other sort of wood ones they have.
Trouble with their rods is they aren't split poles, so you get a lot with cross grain - and they'll shear quite easily under hard loading pressure.

So, got some pool cues and spun them down in my lathe and they worked okay, never had one of them break - and I don't even know what they are.

I've got an ebony rod here on my old shottie - and that's a really nice rod, but finding a 45" ebony dowel or cue is something I haven't managed.

Steel would be another option - got one on my slow twist Enfield and I've hammered that against a tree getting a tight ball down. Good rod if you don't mind the weight and the rattle in the 'keepers'.
You wouldn't want to shoot one of them.

I do remember seeing split hickory ones for sale in the States and I have a memory the same bloke was doing Osage Orange ones - but he had a backlog of orders - and they were expensive, so didn't bother.

I do have some Puriri and Akeake sticks drying out in the garage and in about ten years I'll write back and tell you how they went.

  
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Reply #2 - Aug 23rd, 2018 at 6:50am
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fibreglass fence batten/feild days walking stick......
  
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Reply #3 - Aug 23rd, 2018 at 9:36am
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ok yeh got the rod stuck down the barrel while I was swabbing between shots ( had to be that last shot before I wandered home). Dribbled some 4f down the Nipple hole as have done a few times in the past but must have dribbled a little to much. Wasn`t so much a bit of a pop and rod comes out... more of a restrained Boom!!.
Was going to get a replacement from TOW but hell they have upped their postage prices.
  
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Reply #4 - Aug 23rd, 2018 at 12:54pm
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Ah - had that happen a couple of times - got them out by looping a cord around the bit poking out and yanking really hard on that.
I cross drill and pin the end fittings and never had one pop off.

If you do decide on TOW ones, get a few - some of those Hickory ones can buckle into a corkscrew after a while.
I don't mind a bit of a bend, stops them rattling in the keepers, but some I've had to turn into short dowels for this and that they got so bent.

Personally, I'd just get a rooted pool cue and rasp it down - at least you know the grain is running straight

  
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Reply #5 - Aug 24th, 2018 at 9:56am
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Steel or alloy ones can wear the muzzle so they need a bore guide , Fiberglass fence poles will rip the rifling out  in a big way .
I got a number of rods from Track but was limited in the length they could send , they all have straight grain and no bends , I  put them in a piece of plastic drain pipe filled with artists grade linseed oil and natural turpentine and soaked them for months , they are just fine , Earl Wyatt sokes  his in creosote  and that works well but they do pong abit .

I know one riflesmith who makes rods out of selected hickory shovel handles , the rip saws them  into oversize square profile lengths then planes the square into an octagon then the octagon corners to 16 etc etc then spoke shaves, scrapes and sands the rod into a fairly close approximation of round ,then tapers them to fit .

How long would the rod need to be ? I may have an unloved unbreakable one in the garage
  

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Reply #6 - Aug 25th, 2018 at 2:10am
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ok thats a big no on the fibreglass then Shocked
  
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Reply #7 - Aug 26th, 2018 at 8:05am
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Flintlock wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 9:56am:
Steel or alloy ones can wear the muzzle so they need a bore guide , Fiberglass fence poles will rip the rifling out  in a big way .
I got a number of rods from Track but was limited in the length they could send , they all have straight grain and no bends , I  put them in a piece of plastic drain pipe filled with artists grade linseed oil and natural turpentine and soaked them for months , they are just fine , Earl Wyatt sokes  his in creosote  and that works well but they do pong abit .

I know one riflesmith who makes rods out of selected hickory shovel handles , the rip saws them  into oversize square profile lengths then planes the square into an octagon then the octagon corners to 16 etc etc then spoke shaves, scrapes and sands the rod into a fairly close approximation of round ,then tapers them to fit .

How long would the rod need to be ? I may have an unloved unbreakable one in the garage


Thanks Flintlock. Yeh knew to stay away from the fiberglass and steel. Barrel on the 58 cal is 31 1/2 inch. Cheers
  
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