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Bullets for Wapiti
Aug 2nd, 2018 at 2:42am
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I'm heading to Colorado to hunt Elk in Oct, question for you Wapiti hunters, what bullet types have you been using successfully?

I'm feeling a little out gunned with my .308 win. I'd like to use factory ammo, would a plain old bonded 165gn be sweet? 150gn?

I'm still used to my 3100fps 7mm WSM when such considerations were not necessary.
  
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Reply #1 - Aug 2nd, 2018 at 3:03am
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Check out this video by Randy Newberg, he hunts a lot of elk with 7/08 etc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_byQ5MoUBU

also this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cfd3XkHDaDA

and this one on bullet selection
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDmA-6VsRZQ
  
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Reply #2 - Aug 2nd, 2018 at 7:26am
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I think it said in one of the Lentle and Saxton books that elk are easier to kill than reds, so I would expect whatever works on red stags would be okay. I'd probably go to the heavier end myself, 160-180gr. The Hornady website has all the projectiles in classes like target, varmint, whitetail, elk so you can quickly see what 308 ones would be suitable.
https://www.hornady.com/bullets/rifle/#!/
  
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Thanks guys. The ammo makers recommendations are what have me stumped a little. They typically don't recommend much of anything in .308 for Elk, unless it's some "premium ammo" @ $50 USD a box, bear in mind most ammo is more like $20 a box here.

The Federal Fusion is reasonably priced bonded bullet and they do a 165gn, I think i'll use those.

  
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Aaron B wrote on Aug 2nd, 2018 at 6:20pm:
Thanks guys. The ammo makers recommendations are what have me stumped a little. They typically don't recommend much of anything in .308 for Elk, unless it's some "premium ammo" @ $50 USD a box, bear in mind most ammo is more like $20 a box here.

The Federal Fusion is reasonably priced bonded bullet and they do a 165gn, I think i'll use those.



The Fusion is a damned good bullet. They penetrate well and in my rifles have shot well too.
  

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How much is the tag for an Elk? $50 for a box is pretty small change compared to a wounded and lost elk. The american elk are bigger and tougher than a big red stag.
  
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Reply #6 - Aug 3rd, 2018 at 2:01am
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Aaron, the 165gr fusion will work.  I killed elk with my 308 using 165gr Hornady interlocks.  The elk I killed were smaller Bulls, spikes...  Big bulls are tough and often show no sign of being hit even when fatally hit.  Shot placement is key and follow up a must even if the elk showed no sign of being hit....

There is a rule that most elk hunters here follow...if the elk is still on his feet keep shooting!   Good luck on your hunt!

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I reckon you'll be fine with a .308 with good shot placement and a good bullet.  I shot one with my bow Smiley
  
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Can't remember the old fella who used to run the water taxi in Te Anau but I remember him telling us he only ever used to use a .243
  

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seventenths wrote on Aug 3rd, 2018 at 7:29am:
Can't remember the old fella who used to run the water taxi in Te Anau but I remember him telling us he only ever used to use a .243


American wapiti are a bigger animal than an NZ wapiti.
  
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Reply #10 - Aug 3rd, 2018 at 10:12pm
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Waps are much bigger bodied in US.
Your 308 with 165's should be fine, as others said, bullet placement the key. And sometimes with a clean chest shot they show no indication of being hit and you put another shot into animal to find two well placed holes inches apart on the shoulder.
7/10ths water taxi man be Vern and likely that's all he used in later years, with success too.
  
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Reply #11 - Aug 4th, 2018 at 4:49pm
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stug wrote on Aug 2nd, 2018 at 8:09pm:
How much is the tag for an Elk? $50 for a box is pretty small change compared to a wounded and lost elk. The american elk are bigger and tougher than a big red stag.


The out of state elk tag is around $650 US. Pretty damn steep. I'm still trying to find a buddy to go with otherwise it might be a camera hunt. I'm going to drive if i'm "actually hunting", for various reasons, and I don't want to drive 21 hours each way on my own through the night etc.

Camera hunt - I can fly inexpensively both ways. No tags, no season dates far fewer hassles. Almost as much fun

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Re: Bullets for Wapiti
Reply #12 - Aug 5th, 2018 at 7:35am
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moose are a bigger animal again an plenty are accounted for in scandanavia with 6.5x55 using 140gr pills, 308 will be fine, also if you dont practice and hit where you aim at any and all reasonable distances calibre wont come into the debate
  
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