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ZIP 1080 Perth Valley
Jul 27th, 2018 at 7:46pm
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have just been told today from very reliable source that DOC have given the go ahead for the 1080 drop, even though eight out of eleven Kea that were monitored were confirmed to have been eating the trial pre feed. also that the non toxic repellent bait that is going to be used has not been fully studied or sufficiently trialed. How do you stop this obsession with the usage of poisons in NZ ?
  
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Reply #1 - Jul 27th, 2018 at 7:57pm
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same way you stop any other idiotic govt decisions....  the only 3 options available continual media beatups, international pressure or give up trying.
  
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Reply #2 - Jul 27th, 2018 at 8:25pm
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Kea are one of the most intelligent bird species around, they’re inquisitive and work by tasting everything - watch them if you ever get the chance, feet first then into the mouth.... guess what they’ll do with 1080, you don’t need to be a scientist to know where some 1080 will go and what the end result will be for the birds
  

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Re: ZIP 1080 Perth Valley
Reply #3 - Jul 27th, 2018 at 8:51pm
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tim37 wrote on Jul 27th, 2018 at 7:46pm:
have just been told today from very reliable source that DOC have given the go ahead for the 1080 drop, even though eight out of eleven Kea that were monitored were confirmed to have been eating the trial pre feed. also that the non toxic repellent bait that is going to be used has not been fully studied or sufficiently trialed. How do you stop this obsession with the usage of poisons in NZ ?




I have heard that there has been 2 prefeeds on non toxic, and next to go out is the toxic.?
not more prefeed?
and that kea have been scoffing the pre feed
  
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Re: ZIP 1080 Perth Valley
Reply #4 - Jul 27th, 2018 at 9:07pm
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Yep, the toxic application was approved by DOC last Sunday and is awaiting an appropriate weather window. There are two mitigation measures to protect kea: (1) 30 tahr carcasses to provide an alternative kea food source, and (2) the non-toxic kea repellent bait that makes kea crook (if they eat it) distributed near the tahr carcasses. The pretest showed that (2) was ineffective. Keep your fingers crossed that the kea come out of this OK.
  
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Re: ZIP 1080 Perth Valley
Reply #5 - Jul 27th, 2018 at 9:11pm
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from what I have heard and read on the Zip website they will be [quote] applying non-toxic repellent bait to induce an aversion to cereal baits, prior to applying the toxic bait.
  
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Reply #6 - Jul 27th, 2018 at 9:49pm
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tim37 wrote on Jul 27th, 2018 at 9:11pm:
from what I have heard and read on the Zip website they will be [quote] applying non-toxic repellent bait to induce an aversion to cereal baits, prior to applying the toxic bait.

ahh so the plan is to put kea off the prefeed. interesting.
they might be full of tahr meat Smiley
  
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Re: ZIP 1080 Perth Valley
Reply #7 - Jul 27th, 2018 at 10:57pm
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why are people obsessed with dying keas from 1080
dont you know they have a plan,,kill all then reintroduce from non affected areas,,then they become heroes
its just that simple
and every one loves heroes Wink Wink

i dont think there will be anything left in there after 3 yrs
  

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Re: ZIP 1080 Perth Valley
Reply #8 - Jul 28th, 2018 at 9:40am
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I wonder how feasible live capture of Kea would be, housing them for the drop period, then re-releasing? They seem pretty happy chilling in the relatively small enclosure at Auckland Zoo.

Bait'em up with a strategic drop of windscreen wipers laced with chloroform.
  
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Reply #9 - Jul 28th, 2018 at 11:15am
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Dunno if this is the right page... BUT! there is a new party here in good ole clean green NZ called the "The logic party" you can view it by googli Cool  - stop 1080 poison, click on the morkpork! this young lass has had international court prosecution experience & has begun a court case against the NZ govt. Watch this space.....!
  

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Reply #10 - Jul 28th, 2018 at 12:44pm
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Cripes, it look like a Russian porn conspiracy site.

https://www.facebook.com/www.logic.org.nz/
  

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Reply #11 - Jul 28th, 2018 at 2:09pm
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Nah it's the same nutter chick who tried to get the North Shore split from the rest of NZ.
  
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Reply #12 - Jul 28th, 2018 at 2:12pm
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And the fruitcake “1080 causes M bovis” theory.
  

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Re: ZIP 1080 Perth Valley
Reply #13 - Jul 28th, 2018 at 3:34pm
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BC wrote on Jul 28th, 2018 at 12:44pm:
Cripes, it look like a Russian porn conspiracy site.

https://www.facebook.com/www.logic.org.nz/


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Re: ZIP 1080 Perth Valley
Reply #14 - Jul 28th, 2018 at 5:01pm
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Vulcan wrote on Jul 28th, 2018 at 2:09pm:
Nah it's the same nutter chick who tried to get the North Shore split from the rest of NZ.

That would’ve been the best thing that ever happened to the rest of Auckland.
  
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