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WARO carcasse processinng stats
Jul 25th, 2018 at 5:28pm
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For those interested, below are stats of feral venison stats for carcasses processed

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•        July 2007 – June 2008       = 12,901
•        July 2008 – June 2009       = 22,150
•        July 2009 – June 2010       = 17,247
•        July 2010 – June 2011       = 14,883
•        July 2011 – June 2012       = 16,066
•        July 2012 – June 2013       = 16,294
•        July 2013 – June 2014       = 16,125
•        July 2014 – June 2015       = 16,528
•        July 2015 – June 2016      = 15,451
•        July 2016 – June 2017      = 19,169
•        July 2017 -  June 2018      = 26,138

  
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Reply #1 - Jul 25th, 2018 at 6:31pm
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bet a huge chunk of that is from private land,  between a couple of guys I know they wouldve accounted for a few thousand of those, taking a thousand or so from each station they shoot.

is there any stats on how many are from public land?  Theres pretty good royalties being paid to station owners now and is good incentive to farm their feral populations
  
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Reply #2 - Jul 25th, 2018 at 6:57pm
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gonehuntin wrote on Jul 25th, 2018 at 6:31pm:
bet a huge chunk of that is from private land,  between a couple of guys I know they wouldve accounted for a few thousand of those, taking a thousand or so from each station they shoot.

is there any stats on how many are from public land?  Theres pretty good royalties being paid to station owners now and is good incentive to farm their feral populations


DOC supposedly have the stats, although I doubt many actually collect them

Whats relevant is the trend. Annual harvest is Up 70 percent since 2015

keeps up, the harvest from public land will be increasing likewise, most likely

As the easy deer get taken, then more pressure to get enough from a reduced population. its happened before, will happen again.

DOC have a basic policy, if land can be shot from helicopter and recovered, then be default, that land should be open. excluding land legally excluded. RHAs etc. And even then, after proving a unacceptable  risk to biodiversity, RHAs can be opened also.

Looks like Lake Sumner is a candidate for that
  
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Reply #3 - Jul 25th, 2018 at 7:32pm
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Its so high as veno prices are through the roof and processors cant get enough from farmed deer.  theyre literally begging opperators for deer at the moment, and with the current boom in prices farmers will be building herds again so even less for slaughter compounding the waro pressure.

a few years before theres any chance of over supply.
  
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Reply #4 - Jul 25th, 2018 at 8:10pm
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Where is all this venison going?

  
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Reply #5 - Jul 25th, 2018 at 11:13pm
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I believe Germany, France and Sweden last time i was told?
  
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Reply #6 - Jul 26th, 2018 at 12:03pm
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That’s the highest kill for quite a few years, back when it got to $9/kg a R22 only needed 1 heavy stag every 2-3 hours or more, and there were a heap of them flying round hunting. People seem to think the price at the moment (approx $7/kg) is good. Mid nineties it was well over 5/kg with skin on pluck out, today’s running costs are way higher so how profitable is it now. I would guess the private land jobs are and most doc land is the same as it used to be, hard to make it pay. Be interesting to see what changes are made WARO after all those public submissions.
  
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Reply #7 - Jul 26th, 2018 at 2:23pm
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Re the submissions
don't know how many over all, but in Palmerston North, 400 were received.

The ranger that had to read them all wasn't impressed
  
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Reply #8 - Jul 26th, 2018 at 5:06pm
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Good to hear people putting in submissions!
  
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I put submission in. When I flew in ruahines last the pilot said another operator taken 600+ from the tops in that area. Good to hear when your on the way in ....
  
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Reply #10 - Jul 28th, 2018 at 5:21pm
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With regards WARO submissions it's surprising those that didn't put in a submission or even attend a WARO meeting.

To me this is like patting DOC on the back and saying "your doing a good job"
  

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Reply #11 - Jul 28th, 2018 at 7:14pm
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gonehuntin wrote on Jul 25th, 2018 at 7:32pm:
Its so high as veno prices are through the roof and processors cant get enough from farmed deer.  theyre literally begging opperators for deer at the moment, and with the current boom in prices farmers will be building herds again so even less for slaughter compounding the waro pressure.

a few years before theres any chance of over supply.


Why would farmers hold stock and build herds when the price is high? Thought it would be the opposite.
  

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Reply #12 - Jul 28th, 2018 at 7:35pm
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Usual pattern - high product prices lead to confidence in the industry so numbers expand by retaining animals. Same in dairy, beef, sheep.
  

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Re: WARO carcasse processinng stats
Reply #13 - Jul 28th, 2018 at 7:55pm
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Rumpy wrote on Jul 28th, 2018 at 7:14pm:
gonehuntin wrote on Jul 25th, 2018 at 7:32pm:
Its so high as veno prices are through the roof and processors cant get enough from farmed deer.  theyre literally begging opperators for deer at the moment, and with the current boom in prices farmers will be building herds again so even less for slaughter compounding the waro pressure.

a few years before theres any chance of over supply.


Why would farmers hold stock and build herds when the price is high? Thought it would be the opposite.

Farmers keep more females that would normally go to the works, so that they have more breeding animals - so they get more offspring next year.
  
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