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Hunter Valley Station Access
Jul 24th, 2018 at 5:13pm
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Hi all

Hunter Valley Station is claiming they turn down almost no one who asks for access across their land. From those I have spoken to, this is BS.

Has anyone on here requested access, and would be willing to talk to John Campbell on Checkpoint tomorrow about getting turned down? DM me and I will put you in touch..

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Re: Hunter Valley Station Access
Reply #1 - Jul 24th, 2018 at 7:49pm
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Could you mention to John Campbell that there is unrestricted walking and cycling access on the Eastern shore of Lake Hawea all the way to the Hunter Valley.
Also could you ask him why DOC and the Walking Access Commission are not pushing for an easement through Dingleburn Station.
  
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Reply #2 - Jul 24th, 2018 at 8:32pm
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Cos the tenure review has already been dun on the dingle so they can't go back and ask for more
  
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Re: Hunter Valley Station Access
Reply #3 - Jul 25th, 2018 at 4:47pm
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An easement is not really worth the paper its written on. Mt Pisa has an easement for access to the Public Crown Land beyond the station. We don't need an easement, we need an unformed legal road to be placed upon the current farm track and adopted as a public road, since these allow carriage of firearms, dogs and vehicles.

An easement could be as restrictive as the leaseholder wants to allow e.g. no driving - walking only, no dogs and no firearms.
  

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Reply #4 - Jul 25th, 2018 at 5:55pm
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Doc don't want paper roads tho as they haf to maintain them and they don't wanna spend $ and if something happens they are liable
  
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Re: Hunter Valley Station Access
Reply #5 - Jul 25th, 2018 at 6:28pm
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padox wrote on Jul 25th, 2018 at 5:55pm:
Doc don't want paper roads tho as they haf to maintain them and they don't wanna spend $ and if something happens they are liable


um no they dont, paper roads are unformed and are simply a plotted parcel of land on a map although some farmers have formed tracks on top of them but are no responsibility for anyone to maintain. if they exist then they are a legal formed road.

I think scottrods mean to classify the current access track as a legal road in which yes someone (council or the likes) would have to maintain it.
  
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Reply #6 - Jul 25th, 2018 at 7:17pm
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gonehuntin wrote on Jul 25th, 2018 at 6:28pm:
padox wrote on Jul 25th, 2018 at 5:55pm:
Doc don't want paper roads tho as they haf to maintain them and they don't wanna spend $ and if something happens they are liable


um no they dont, paper roads are unformed and are simply a plotted parcel of land on a map although some farmers have formed tracks on top of them but are no responsibility for anyone to maintain. if they exist then they are a legal formed road.

I think scottrods mean to classify the current access track as a legal road in which yes someone (council or the likes) would have to maintain it.


Witch they don't want to do we are having a simular argument down here and then u get idiots ripping up the tracks then expect the farmer to tow them out when they get stuck
  
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Re: Hunter Valley Station Access
Reply #7 - Jul 25th, 2018 at 7:27pm
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yea I understand, is it a legal formed road or just a paper road? As paper roads can be padlocked to prevent vehicles but cant restrict walking access.

a place my cousin worked had a $200 towing fee paid up front or the muppets truck stayed there, a sign can prevent alot of idiocy.
  
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Re: Hunter Valley Station Access
Reply #8 - Jul 25th, 2018 at 7:30pm
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sly wrote on Jul 24th, 2018 at 5:13pm:
Hi all

Hunter Valley Station is claiming they turn down almost no one who asks for access across their land. From those I have spoken to, this is BS.

Has anyone on here requested access, and would be willing to talk to John Campbell on Checkpoint tomorrow about getting turned down? DM me and I will put you in touch..

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How do you ask them for access? Is it true the number is kept secret? (Someone claimed that on NatRad, but surely its not true)
  

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Re: Hunter Valley Station Access
Reply #9 - Jul 25th, 2018 at 11:54pm
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DOC said its refusal to give out the phone number for the station was not unusual.
They said the phone number for Hunter Valley Station could be found publicly in the White Pages.

Oscar, where did you look?
  
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Reply #10 - Jul 26th, 2018 at 12:04am
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Havenít been looking, just heard that claim on NatRad and wondered if it could actually be true. So, itís not?
  

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Re: Hunter Valley Station Access
Reply #11 - Jul 26th, 2018 at 9:47am
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The number is there under Hunter Valley Station. The quote above in yellow is taken from the same statement on Nat Radio that Sly talks about - worded as such online. But whether the calls get answered or messages returned could be a seperate issue?
  
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Re: Hunter Valley Station Access
Reply #12 - Jul 26th, 2018 at 12:17pm
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It would be an interesting exercise if maybe 10 different forum members rang and asked to get access.  I wonder what the outcome would be.
  
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Re: Hunter Valley Station Access
Reply #13 - Jul 26th, 2018 at 3:10pm
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Seems that the politicians have been aware of this for a while.  Embarrassed


https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/access-through-lake-hāwea-always-deliber...
  
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Re: Hunter Valley Station Access
Reply #14 - Jul 27th, 2018 at 11:31am
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Federated Mountain Clubs are keeping the focus on this: www.fmc.org.nz/huntervalleyaccess/

Be interesting to see if the statements made re allowing access are backed up
  

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