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Man who shot Kaimai hunter was 'blinded by stag fever'
Jul 20th, 2018 at 3:47pm
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https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/105626782/man-who-shot-kaimai-hunter-avoi...

I know this will start another heated debate, most likely
But, "Through the scope of his rifle he saw a brown object moving forward. He pulled the trigger."
is simply shooting at a bit of brown. IMO
all the cognitive whatever has bugga all to do with it.
WTF is Stag fever? a hunter getting over excited? An excuse for shooting someone? They shouldn't be in the bush with a rifle.
  
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Re: Man who shot Kaimai hunter was 'blinded by stag fever'
Reply #1 - Jul 20th, 2018 at 4:00pm
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There is one stop after the trigger is pulled. Be good..and be careful. Sad
  

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Re: Man who shot Kaimai hunter was 'blinded by stag fever'
Reply #2 - Jul 20th, 2018 at 4:21pm
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Tararua Hunter wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 3:47pm:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/105626782/man-who-shot-kaimai-hunter-avoi...

I know this will start another heated debate, most likely
But, "Through the scope of his rifle he saw a brown object moving forward. He pulled the trigger."
is simply shooting at a bit of brown. IMO
all the cognitive whatever has bugga all to do with it.
WTF is Stag fever? a hunter getting over excited? An excuse for shooting someone? They shouldn't be in the bush with a rifle.



Yes....... but implicit in that is the assumption that the media have accurately reported what was said, and in context.
  
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Re: Man who shot Kaimai hunter was 'blinded by stag fever'
Reply #3 - Jul 20th, 2018 at 4:28pm
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Why are punishments for killing another person so light when it's hunters shooting other hunters? I assume he didn't go out there with the intention to shoot a person, but "shooting at something brown" is careless at best and has a relatively high chance of killing a person, particularly during the roar.

The victim's life is worth more than it being labeled "stag fever".
  

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Re: Man who shot Kaimai hunter was 'blinded by stag fever'
Reply #4 - Jul 20th, 2018 at 5:26pm
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Yes....... but implicit in that is the assumption that the media have accurately reported what was said, and in context.


Herald is similar. could all have it wrong, probably
  
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Re: Man who shot Kaimai hunter was 'blinded by stag fever'
Reply #5 - Jul 20th, 2018 at 5:31pm
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where theres humans there will be death
on average 11 trampers/climbers die in the mountains
300 odd in traffic accidents,,oops did i say accidents,,no its careless use of vehicle
humans are stupid and there is no getting away from this
  

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Re: Man who shot Kaimai hunter was 'blinded by stag fever'
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264Magic wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 5:31pm:
where theres humans there will be death
on average 11 trampers/climbers die in the mountains
300 odd in traffic accidents,,oops did i say accidents,,no its careless use of vehicle
humans are stupid and there is no getting away from this


your right 264
It will happen every year
But, calling it "stag fever" as something hunters get and ends up with someone shot, is crap.
If Stag Fever get so bad it causes hunters to shoot before identification,  then anyone who gets that excited  should stay out of the bush

  
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Reply #7 - Jul 20th, 2018 at 6:18pm
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'Buck fever' is hardly an uncommon occurrance - most, if not all people will get a dose or several at some stage.

It's the 'rush' you get when you've done something really stupid in a car, or someone else has and the realisation hits you that for a gnats co*k you wouldn't have made it.
The same rush when a guy as big as a mountain calls you out when you're not expecting it.
The 'rush' that hits you when you discover you've made an almighty and irreversibly costly co*k up at work.
When your wife finds her best friend's knickers under your pillow.

Hunters get it when all their expectations come home to roost, the massive rush of adrenaline - bang.
Some hunters get it so bad you could wearing a circus tent hat with flashing lights and a musical carousel galloping around the brim - and they'll probably still shoot because they already have in their minds eye just what it is you are.

I've had it - chased a roaring stag in the bush for close on an hour, could see bits of him, then gone - and when I finally had the shot I had the shakes so bad I couldn't hold the gun on him and watched him walk away.

Bet someone else on here has had it too - or does it only happen to me ?
  
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Re: Man who shot Kaimai hunter was 'blinded by stag fever'
Reply #8 - Jul 20th, 2018 at 6:42pm
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SF90 wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 6:18pm:
'Buck fever' is hardly an uncommon occurrance - most, if not all people will get a dose or several at some stage.

It's the 'rush' you get when you've done something really stupid in a car, or someone else has and the realisation hits you that for a gnats co*k you wouldn't have made it.
The same rush when a guy as big as a mountain calls you out when you're not expecting it.
The 'rush' that hits you when you discover you've made an almighty and irreversibly costly co*k up at work.
When your wife finds her best friend's knickers under your pillow.

Hunters get it when all their expectations come home to roost, the massive rush of adrenaline - bang.
Some hunters get it so bad you could wearing a circus tent hat with flashing lights and a musical carousel galloping around the brim - and they'll probably still shoot because they already have in their minds eye just what it is you are.

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I've had it - chased a roaring stag in the bush for close on an hour, could see bits of him, then gone - and when I finally had the shot I had the shakes so bad I couldn't hold the gun on him and watched him walk away.

Bet someone else on here has had it too - or does it only happen to me ?



i love your posts Cheesy
  
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Re: Man who shot Kaimai hunter was 'blinded by stag fever'
Reply #9 - Jul 20th, 2018 at 6:49pm
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pope wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 6:42pm:
i love your posts Cheesy


ha, ha - and I've had all those things happen, except one ..... and I ain't gonna tell you which one.

Holy shit - I think I'm an adrenaline junky ......... oh no.

  
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Re: Man who shot Kaimai hunter was 'blinded by stag fever'
Reply #10 - Jul 20th, 2018 at 7:02pm
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SF70, getting a "Rush" after the event is understandable

getting it before yourve identified an animal is not a good thing. (if its that bad a dumb decision is made)

And anyone who gets like that, should give up hunting IMO
  
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Re: Man who shot Kaimai hunter was 'blinded by stag fever'
Reply #11 - Jul 20th, 2018 at 7:16pm
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At least the guy fronted and accepts that what he did was rash and stupid and that he "shot at a bit of brown".

The Judge said that he took that and his remorse into account when sentencing him.

That's different to those who remain convinced that they unmistakably saw a deer and hide behind it as an excuse.
  

Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.......
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Re: Man who shot Kaimai hunter was 'blinded by stag fever'
Reply #12 - Jul 20th, 2018 at 8:28pm
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Tararua Hunter wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 7:02pm:
SF70, getting a "Rush" after the event is understandable

getting it before yourve identified an animal is not a good thing. (if its that bad a dumb decision is made)

And anyone who gets like that, should give up hunting IMO
                   



Yeah - I think I got it wrong, was talking about the 'anti-climax rush'.
That guy had the 'anticipation rush' which I've also had - on a Lotto ticket - closely followed by that first one.
I've also had the one in the middle - the 'climax rush' and I really should have done that in capitals - cos it knackered me.

But all that said - I reckon part of getting a gun license should be a psych evaluation because on more than one occasion I've seen a brainwave fizz to the wrong connection where a gun is concerned leaving you with a - "Huh ? ..... WTF just happened there."
Few people will find themselves at fault in which case they're hardly likely to demote themselves to a gun-less state when they really don't want to.
Nah - it's always the other blokes fault.

And - I see you've demoted me, from ninety to a mere seventy - and that hurts.

  
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Reply #13 - Jul 20th, 2018 at 9:28pm
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And - I see you've demoted me, from ninety to a mere seventy - and that hurts.

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Old habit, SF90 Smiley

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Reply #14 - Jul 20th, 2018 at 10:10pm
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Tararua Hunter wrote on Jul 20th, 2018 at 9:28pm:
Old habit, SF90 Smiley

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Cheers mate - that just looks so right  Cool

  
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