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JustcallmeDoris Active Member Offline Hunt'n, Fish'n, Shoot'n, Spear'n.... Posts: 56 Location: Auckland Joined: Mar 25^th, 2013 Gender:	Was it a RED deer I heard? Or a crazy Sika? Jul 7^th, 2018 at 2:50pm	Print Post
	I've been meaning to ask ye old sages on the FishinHunt forum about a deer I've heard in the Kaimanawa's two years in a row - it was in the same area both years. It's deep in Sika country, but this sounds like a bear (which it obviously isn't). It doesn't sound like any Youtube Red's roaring. It is a brutal, angry "I'm going to kill you" sound... If I didn't know better, I would think it was a bear. This year it was with Sika Hinds - I heard them chirping as they descended the bush valley after the male got bored of me. Never got to see it though. I've never actually hunted Reds... just Sika and Fallow. So don't have a reference to compare it to. Anyone got a link to a Red deer making that kind of sound? Kind regards


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TJ Online Forum Guide Donor Member Staff Offline EBRG forever- Cher, cher Bro Posts: 12568 Location: hamilton Joined: Nov 9^th, 2006 Gender:	Re: Was it a RED deer I heard? Or a crazy Sika? Reply #1 - Jul 7^th, 2018 at 3:58pm	Print Post
	Have a look at you tube for any roar hunting and you will soon find out the difference.


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dribbler Active Member Offline I Love The FishNhunt Forum Posts: 91 Joined: Apr 30^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: Was it a RED deer I heard? Or a crazy Sika? Reply #2 - Jul 7^th, 2018 at 4:33pm	Print Post
	If you get a tingle in ya hooha's its a red.


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Maddoghunter Donor Member Offline I Love The FishNhunt Forum Posts: 1672 Location: Franklin Joined: Apr 28^th, 2013	Re: Was it a RED deer I heard? Or a crazy Sika? Reply #3 - Jul 7^th, 2018 at 11:14pm	Print Post
	It’ll be a Sika. Some of them have pretty messed up vocals.


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XRhunter Donor Member Offline I Love The FishNhunt Forum Posts: 867 Location: Central North Island Joined: May 30^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Was it a RED deer I heard? Or a crazy Sika? Reply #4 - Jul 8^th, 2018 at 11:06am	Print Post
	Maddoghunter wrote on Jul 7^th, 2018 at 11:14pm: It’ll be a Sika. Some of them have pretty messed up vocals. +1


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levactn Full Member Offline Be prepared-in & out of season Posts: 194 Location: Patea Joined: Aug 29^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Was it a RED deer I heard? Or a crazy Sika? Reply #5 - Jul 8^th, 2018 at 1:13pm	Print Post
	Where abouts... maybe someone could have a look-see?

	sometimes i sits & thinks, & sometimes i just sits. never miss a good chance to shut-up when your dead you don't know your dead. All the pain is felt by others. Same thing happens when your stupid!
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ICEMAN Forum Font Offline I Love The FishNhunt Forum Posts: 5473 Location: Fallow country Joined: Jul 13^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Was it a RED deer I heard? Or a crazy Sika? Reply #6 - Jul 8^th, 2018 at 7:01pm	Print Post
	Mule deer were liberated at Runanga Hawkes bay in 1905, Records say Bill Axbey possibly recorded the last sighting of Mule deer in about 1950 North of Taihape, worth considering? I think Axis or chittal may have been liberated as well, I know they were released in Goodwood Bush Oamaru in 1867 , but were apparently shot out by 1925, maybe some were released in the North island? But They sound nothing like a bear


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Pete82 Donor Member Offline Aren't we lucky? Posts: 233 Location: Canterbury Joined: Nov 17^th, 2017 Gender:	Re: Was it a RED deer I heard? Or a crazy Sika? Reply #7 - Jul 8^th, 2018 at 8:37pm	Print Post
	Wow that Chittal deer would sure make a good skin rug


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JustcallmeDoris Active Member Offline Hunt'n, Fish'n, Shoot'n, Spear'n.... Posts: 56 Location: Auckland Joined: Mar 25^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Was it a RED deer I heard? Or a crazy Sika? Reply #8 - Jul 9^th, 2018 at 10:32pm	Print Post
	levactn wrote on Jul 8^th, 2018 at 1:13pm: Where abouts... maybe someone could have a look-see? Mangaroa block - Helisika.... It's an interesting block. Half of it covered in impenetrable Manuka, the half that isn't is littered with snowfall damage.... Been there twice so only just figured out a few money spots... but going somewhere elsewhere next year because we are (stupid) wanting a new challenge. I've only hunted Sika for about 7 years... so am a novice. Heard the typical single call and hee haw a gazillion times. 3 years ago heard the Sika "scream". Told my mates about it back at camp... demonstrated the "scream" and had a Stag immediately single call in reply across the valley... But hadn't heard the deep "RRROOOOAAAAR" until last year. Then heard it again this year... up closer along with deep grunts.... So wondering if it is the mystery that is Sika... or if it is a RED - which I've never hunted so not quite sure about the various sounds they make... Regards


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TJ Online Forum Guide Donor Member Staff Offline EBRG forever- Cher, cher Bro Posts: 12568 Location: hamilton Joined: Nov 9^th, 2006 Gender:	Re: Was it a RED deer I heard? Or a crazy Sika? Reply #9 - Jul 10^th, 2018 at 11:47am	Print Post
	Reds can make calls that sound very similar to Japs as well. Last years roar I heard a animal going off which had all the signs of being a Jap, only trouble was that I was in the southern part of the Urewera.


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Maddoghunter Donor Member Offline I Love The FishNhunt Forum Posts: 1672 Location: Franklin Joined: Apr 28^th, 2013	Re: Was it a RED deer I heard? Or a crazy Sika? Reply #10 - Jul 10^th, 2018 at 6:06pm	Print Post
	TJ wrote on Jul 10^th, 2018 at 11:47am: Reds can make calls that sound very similar to Japs as well. Last years roar I heard a animal going off which had all the signs of being a Jap, only trouble was that I was in the southern part of the Urewera. Pretty sure there’s Sika around Te Hoe if you were that far south.


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gonehuntin Forum Font Offline I Love The FishNhunt Forum Posts: 1916 Location: Lost Joined: Nov 22^nd, 2012 Gender:	Re: Was it a RED deer I heard? Or a crazy Sika? Reply #11 - Jul 10^th, 2018 at 7:08pm	Print Post
	you sure none of your mates werent just having a bush turd after a week of freeze dry food that can produce some very load roars and plenty of grunting


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TJ Online Forum Guide Donor Member Staff Offline EBRG forever- Cher, cher Bro Posts: 12568 Location: hamilton Joined: Nov 9^th, 2006 Gender:	Re: Was it a RED deer I heard? Or a crazy Sika? Reply #12 - Jul 11^th, 2018 at 11:05am	Print Post
	Maddoghunter wrote on Jul 10^th, 2018 at 6:06pm: TJ wrote on Jul 10^th, 2018 at 11:47am: Reds can make calls that sound very similar to Japs as well. Last years roar I heard a animal going off which had all the signs of being a Jap, only trouble was that I was in the southern part of the Urewera. Pretty sure there’s Sika around Te Hoe if you were that far south. Not that far south mate


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