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Points scoring while shooting ducks
Jun 14th, 2018 at 3:43pm
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Following on from extending seasons debate in A/W thread I heard the other the other day what i thought was a good idea.

Opening weekend each hunter can shoot say 20 birds per day. After opening weekend you can shoot 20 points per day. A drake has 1 point and a hen has 3 points. So you can shoot 20 drakes or 11 drakes and 3 hens to get your 20 points.

Fly in the ointment is evening / dark shooting but you gotta stop when you have your 20 points.

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Re: Points scoring while shooting ducks
Reply #1 - Jun 14th, 2018 at 5:58pm
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You are still shooting 20 drakes,14 mixed bag,Here in southland we are allowed 20 birds for opening weekend then after that 10 birds?with the hybrid grey mallard drake very hard to identify in half dark.to be honest our season is too long.The bag limit and points system only works with honest people that stop when get there limit,
  
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Re: Points scoring while shooting ducks
Reply #2 - Jun 17th, 2018 at 10:23pm
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mallardbuster wrote on Jun 14th, 2018 at 5:58pm:
You are still shooting 20 drakes,14 mixed bag,Here in southland we are allowed 20 birds for opening weekend then after that 10 birds?with the hybrid grey mallard drake very hard to identify in half dark.]to be honest our season is too long.The bag limit and points system only works with honest people that stop when get there limit,


I agree with you saying that our season is to long, two months would be long enough for a season (a few years ago thats what is was and that was fine). Ducks are paired up and looking for nesting sites by July (some ducks are actually starting to lay eggs by the end of the month). The long season hinders the breeding season for ducks and that will have a lot to do with why duck numbers are so low in southland now.
And yes the bag limit only works for honest people, unfortunatly there is no shortage of dishonest people down here who just don't stop shooting when they get there limit, which doesn't help the low duck numbers.
  
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Re: Points scoring while shooting ducks
Reply #3 - Jun 18th, 2018 at 5:51pm
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A wee bit of info re the mallard drake/hen imbalance. Yes i know its data out of the USA but i believe there is the same imbalance in sex ratios in NZ ?

http://www.ducks.org/conservation/waterfowl-research-science/waterfowl-sex-ratio...

  
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Re: Points scoring while shooting ducks
Reply #4 - Jun 22nd, 2018 at 7:29pm
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its a pity we dont have a drakes only season for say 2 months into breeding season when those randy mallard drakes are out on the prowl and raping all the hens they can get . last year there was a hen hit by a car on grass verge outside our work yard....there was nearly always a drake or 4 in attndence for close to a week.the ground was turned to mud around her dead carcass..... sitting on a small pond/puddle with single hen decoy could be very interesting way to spend the day..... the hens are doing the rearing thing and it only takes single drake to fertilize the eggs..... it MIGHT slow down the hybrid thing somewhat as the grey hens might get a break too.
  
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Reply #5 - Jun 24th, 2018 at 8:01am
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Gday Mickey,

This idea is an encouragement for a drake harvest but has the out for someone who makes a mistake rather than a straight dont shoot hens rule.

This year i am trying my level best to shoot drakes only but have shot a pair with one shot on 2 occasions so far this year. This rule allows me not to be a law breaker or a dumper of ducks.

Also re a previous post about it will rely on peoples honesty.. any law relies on peoples honesty to obey it.

I have a real soft spot for mallard hens. They get a real hard time when nesting from predators [that is why i trap] and then they get a hiding during duck season ... we rely on them to bring up next years crop of birds and seem to give nothing back to them. With a "drake encouragement" rule we have an simple opportunity to give something back !
  
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Re: Points scoring while shooting ducks
Reply #6 - Jun 24th, 2018 at 8:43pm
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I do agree.....most years for the last 18 we end up with 2/3rds drakes.....probably as we target the big fat green heads first and if dont hit it with first shot it gets the second too.....if we drop drake with first,the nearest bird gets the next...that the nearest reason I can work out why.
I see your point re dumping/law breaking....same theory why 1 grey teal has been sugested for years..... you try your best but sometimes it happens,if youve done it once you make plurry sure not to do it again.
  
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