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Predator Free Rakiura (Stewart Island) - A step closer.
May 13th, 2018 at 10:43pm
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Reply #1 - May 14th, 2018 at 2:08pm
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Question - for the purposes of predator control, are deer classified as a "predator"? Or are the simply bykill of a predator elimination project?
  
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Reply #2 - May 14th, 2018 at 5:28pm
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As deer are pretty good business in that part of the world I  doubt some would be happy with them being either.

I imagine It will be more trapping and and small scale poisening  if anything.

Hopefully.  Smiley
  

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Reply #3 - May 14th, 2018 at 6:20pm
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I sure hope you are right headcase,the birdlife down there is pretty special too.
  
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Reply #5 - May 15th, 2018 at 10:58am
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jwingill wrote on May 14th, 2018 at 8:48pm:


Thanks for that link....interesting.

Not convinced that all of that work is entirely objective, and that it would withstand the scrutiny of rigorous peer review, but maybe that wasn't its intention?
  
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Reply #6 - May 15th, 2018 at 7:23pm
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I was surprised they allow pet cats there
  

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Reply #7 - May 16th, 2018 at 11:42am
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They will be a lot happier after they f*** the place.
Where's Halfway these days?
  

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Reply #8 - May 17th, 2018 at 1:19pm
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trip wrote on May 15th, 2018 at 7:23pm:
I was surprised they allow pet cats there


+1

This will go down like a cup of cold sick to keen Stewart Island hunters but I would be prepared to sacrifice the White Tail as a bit of give or take with DOC re deer control.


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Why? they only want it to be preditor free.
  

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headcase wrote on May 17th, 2018 at 7:07pm:
Why? they only want it to be preditor free.



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Reply #11 - May 17th, 2018 at 8:12pm
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lol, from the Doc website,

The following values underpin the vision:

collaboration of all the stakeholders affected and/or willing to contribute
application of the latest science and technology
building the project in a way that interlinks environmental, social and economic benefits
honouring our cultural history, Mo tatou, a, mo ka uri a muri ake nei – for us and for generations to come.

So they are saying they will be using brodi instead of 1080 because its more modern.  Roll Eyes



  

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Reply #12 - May 17th, 2018 at 8:59pm
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I walked part of the Stewart Island  coastal track system in the 80's, and they were attempting to control wild cat numbers then. Shows you they have achieved a lot in 30 odd years Undecided Undecided
  
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Reply #13 - May 18th, 2018 at 8:15pm
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LOVETT wrote on May 17th, 2018 at 1:19pm:
trip wrote on May 15th, 2018 at 7:23pm:
I was surprised they allow pet cats there


+1

This will go down like a cup of cold sick to keen Stewart Island hunters but I would be prepared to sacrifice the White Tail as a bit of give or take with DOC re deer control.


Cheers, Dan

 




devide and conquer...let them wipe out the whitetail down there and they will start on next herd they want gone and do the same....the wapiti would be next logical choice......only a few hunters to protest same as the island....hmmmmm blue mountains fallow same reasons,then greenstone/caples.....mustnt forget the north island....everything north of lake taupo...let the green rain flood the whole country..heck these morons havent read what survives after a nuke goes off...cockroaches and rats..... sure they can fence off bits and get them pest free and keep them that way WITH HUGE EFFORT over long term...but large scale it becomes like gorilla warfare.....(read "the war of the flea" )   the defender of territory has to hold it all at all costs,the gorilla   (or rats,cats etc) dont have to hold/defend anything,they simply have to survive to win... the cost of defence is astronomical compared to existance.
good on the powers that be for deciding to have a go but the pet cats one is classic case....sure sterilize all that are there now and allow no more.with say $100,000 fine if caught with breeding capable moggy,cant pay=eviction from island for life,that would be a good deterrant.
  
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Reply #14 - May 18th, 2018 at 8:51pm
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XRhunter wrote on May 17th, 2018 at 8:59pm:
I walked part of the Stewart Island  coastal track system in the 80's, and they were attempting to control wild cat numbers then. Shows you they have achieved a lot in 30 odd years Undecided Undecided


I used ti scarper all over the Island myself aways back and yeah, they had a coupla dudes catching wild cats on a permanent basis.
The thing that gets me is that the bird life was prolific way back then,cats or not,was shit loads of rats and birds were thick.
A  good friend just come back from a  hunting trip on the Island,remarket  on how many kiwis and other birds there were and got some top picks.Between four people only one rat was seen and one cat,,that includes trail cameras etc.
My point in regards to the killer cats etc is what the f**k
is the problem??,,,nature has and will continue ti do it's thing,,bird life is great,cats ,rats are still doin their thing exactly the same as they were bloody decades ago.
Is all the hype just another load of bullshit,justification of jobs?, someone trying ti make a name for themselves ?etc,oh and of course the $'s ti be had.
Beats the crap outa me  Huh
  

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