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Vanguard ED 10x42 versus Vortex Razor
Mar 24th, 2018 at 7:17pm
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After a decent set of binos, but don't have a few grand (and then some) to get swarvoski EL series. Also the majority of my hunting is in the bush but am expanding to tops and South island hopefully soon.

I am considering the Vortex Viper or more expensive Vortex Razor 10x42. However alot of reviews suggest the Vanguard ED IV 10x42 is amazing quality and value. I haven't been able to find any in the stores to look through, so interested in others opinions.

Budget up to $1.5k

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Reply #1 - Mar 25th, 2018 at 8:23am
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I have the Vanguard and highly recommend them.
I got them from here. Good service.
https://www.jacobsdigital.co.nz/collections/telescopes?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIz6Wb9eS...

I would also look at these: https://www.tractoptics.com

You need to contact Tract directly because you can't buy from NZ through their site. Their 'scopes are excellent too.
  

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Reply #2 - Mar 25th, 2018 at 10:12am
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Thanks for the link BC, never heard of tract but they have good specs and dielectric coating on the lenses. The 17x5 star reviews is ominous haha might search a bit wider.

I wonder of Jacobs digital have vanguards in stock, could make an effort to get up there and look through them
  
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Reply #3 - Mar 25th, 2018 at 10:39am
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bushwanderer wrote on Mar 25th, 2018 at 10:12am:
Thanks for the link BC, never heard of tract but they have good specs and dielectric coating on the lenses. The 17x5 star reviews is ominous haha might search a bit wider.

I wonder of Jacobs digital have vanguards in stock, could make an effort to get up there and look through them


I have a Tract Toric 3x15 scope and its top class. There are no middle agents so they are good value. I would definitely get their binos if I ever need another pair. Absolutely nothing wrong with the vanguards though and Ive compared them with the best.
  

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Reply #4 - Mar 26th, 2018 at 8:43pm
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The torrics look really good actually, and have won some awards on outdoor life reviews. Only issue it seems is they have been around for 2-3 years and you could question reliability and warranty/guarantee as its not proven and a young company.

kind of like the kuiu version of optics it seems.
  
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bushwanderer wrote on Mar 26th, 2018 at 8:43pm:
The torrics look really good actually, and have won some awards on outdoor life reviews. Only issue it seems is they have been around for 2-3 years and you could question reliability and warranty/guarantee as its not proven and a young company.

kind of like the kuiu version of optics it seems.


You will find that the owners will deal with you directly and give great service.
I checked the warranty with them and it seemed ok but remember no matter what product you bring in from over seas you are going to have hassles with postage etc if you need to get it serviced.
I'm totally happy with what I got off them and would leap at the binos.
They have the previous 10x42 bino model on special for a $100 off. Did you see that?

  

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Reply #6 - Mar 27th, 2018 at 6:46am
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p.s The Vangaurds are still right up there too.

The Euro bino snobs know nothing. Seriously.
  

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Reply #7 - Mar 28th, 2018 at 6:35am
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Haha thanks BC, I like your honesty. Maybe everyone jumps on the bandwagon with euro glass, I suppose it should be the best for 3-5k price tags.

I'm going up to Auckland in a few weeks so will go to Jacobs digital and try the vanguards out, will then decide of they are algood or maybe import the tract.

Cheers for the help
  
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Reply #8 - Mar 29th, 2018 at 5:44am
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Where are you based? I've got the Vanguard Endeavor II if you want to have a look around Taupo.
  

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Reply #9 - Mar 29th, 2018 at 4:23pm
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Wellington mate, but will be in the bush until April 17th. Thanks for the offer! I should be able to see them in the shop mid/late April in AKL
  
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Im in Wellington if you want to see mine. PM me.
  

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Reply #11 - Apr 1st, 2018 at 10:31am
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Hey boys. I'm finally looking to replace the Nikko Stirlings i've had since I started hunting (don't laugh, they've done me well).

Who else can comment on these Vanguard EDs? I'm reading good things but not from forums I trust as much.

Anyone used the ED4? I see they've sold out at least on the Vangaurd website. Anyone know if they're much different to the EDII?

  
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Reply #12 - Apr 2nd, 2018 at 7:33am
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Aaron B wrote on Apr 1st, 2018 at 10:31am:
Hey boys. I'm finally looking to replace the Nikko Stirlings i've had since I started hunting (don't laugh, they've done me well).

Who else can comment on these Vanguard EDs? I'm reading good things but not from forums I trust as much.

Anyone used the ED4? I see they've sold out at least on the Vangaurd website. Anyone know if they're much different to the EDII?



If they are any improvement on the ed2 they will be excellent.
  

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Re: Vanguard ED 10x42 versus Vortex Razor
Reply #13 - Apr 2nd, 2018 at 8:49am
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I think they've done some tweaks for better glass quality but mixed reviews about their longevity.

Spec wise, tract torics use dielectric coating, schott glass and are argon filled.

The vanguards are very similar except not as good a coating (silver versus dielectric), bak4 prisms and nitrogen filled.

Another one to consider amongst these two is the Maven binos (b1?), They are similar in price and business model as tract it seems.
  
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Re: Vanguard ED 10x42 versus Vortex Razor
Reply #14 - Apr 6th, 2018 at 7:14am
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Jacobs (Birkenhead/Auckland) now have the Vanguard ED 1V. $950.

https://www.jacobsdigital.co.nz/products/vanguard-10-x-42-ed-iv-binoculars


  

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