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Feb 3rd, 2018 at 8:32am
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Have been having a look at the Agenda of the next local F n G meeting and I see that all regions are being asked to look at the issue of captive reared mallards.(CRM). They are being asked to consider five questions relating to CRM. The question that worries me is number 4. Are we heading toward the possibility of duck hunting becoming a commercial operation where driven ducks becomes the accepted norm. That maybe the extreme end of the scale but it has happened already. What will the animal welfare lobbyists think of it? They will use any angle of perceived animal cruelty to have a go at our much loved pastime. Is it ethical and how much respect are we showing to our wild population of game birds?
  
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Reply #1 - Feb 3rd, 2018 at 8:49am
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not a heck of a lot different to rearing birds then feeding the crap out of a pond really is it?????
nothing stopping you rearing as many ducks as you like...get domestic breed as close to mallard as you can find and let wild drakes do the dirty with them incubate  and rear the resulting eggs,release and feed ducklings and you will have semi wild ducks to shoot to your hearts content....... unless law changes to allow birds to be shot while not flying there is nothing to stop said birds departing the scene the same as happens in phesant game farms.....
but paying to shoot said birds is a touchy /grey area that will need looking at maybe????
  
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This is a question that needs plenty of consideration with both positive and negative out comes, do we want to see duck hunting in NZ turn into a sport for those with money where the only skill needed is an ability to be told how to shoot straight have a fat wallet and then boast how many flight trained ducks you shot which you'll never pluck and roll in bacon to fry and oven roast. This will probably be all that the animal rights campaigners will need to shut down hunting as in 2 states of Australia. Or be that keen on good ducks that are put out there not for profit but to boost wild numbers, hope that they hang around your area and only take your limit which is the same for everyone.  I would be happy for the decision to be worked out by all permit holders. What worries me more is this decision might be made by field and game committees that have too much of a vested interest in the out come of this question. I  hope those persons would abstain from the discussion or make sure they disclose their interest and not campaign on it. These persons were voted in to represent all members and not there own interest. I wonder what will happen behind closed doors.
  
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Reply #3 - Feb 5th, 2018 at 6:05pm
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If the commercialisatiuon of trout farming in Europe is anything to measure by, dont go there.

The trout are diseased, covered in  fungal problems, lethargic, tasteless miserable mistreated specimens in my limited experience.



  

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Reply #4 - Feb 8th, 2018 at 11:46am
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Committee members with vested interests  who voted to bring forward the start date pheasant for shooting for preserves by 1 month. One can only be worried about the motives to now bring driven duck shooting by these same people for the benefit of the few.
  
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ok...how the hell will you "drive" ducks????
Grinthey go where ever they please do they not???
  
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not if the only thing they know is being feed at a certain place their whole life. take a look at what is done overseas
  
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Reply #7 - Feb 8th, 2018 at 10:07pm
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If you take a total view duck hunting is declining in NZ at least in our area and many hunters are sick of the rules about ammo and lack of birds due to habitat destruction. The bright balmy winter days do not add to duck weather.
  
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Reply #8 - Feb 11th, 2018 at 6:51pm
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The danger of game estates hunting of ducks is that they will not only shoot the ducks that they breed and release, but also the wild bred ducks that are attracted to the ponds that are fed to keep the ducks they have bred there, and that will happen.

Ducks are highly mobile and are attracted by other ducks.

Is it beneficial to the wild duck population to have any human raised mallards (that dont get shot) introduced to the breeding population of genuine wild bred population ? I dont know the answer to that question but certainly it needs careful consideration before any rule change ?

This has been discussed before and if i recall correctly the consensus was overwhelmingly that it wasnt of any benefit to duck hunters or the duck population, infact the reverse.
  
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Reply #9 - Feb 11th, 2018 at 7:26pm
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Any commercialisation will have a negative effect on the native population. Its inevitable.
  

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Reply #10 - Feb 12th, 2018 at 5:07am
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it's already here and has been for many years.
ducks are a shoot owners cash cow as you can harvest well over what you put down and they are easier to rear than pheasants.
  

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Reply #11 - Feb 12th, 2018 at 6:10pm
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I  want to know what are the councils planning on doing about getting the shooting public's opinion on this matter or is it a case of "we know best"
And those who stand to profit from this decision are the ones pushing for it, and are also sitting around the council tables.
  
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Reply #12 - Feb 12th, 2018 at 7:36pm
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HB Fish and Game meeting tomorrow night( Tues 13th Feb) if anyone's interested. Member HBhunting has a fair point about some council members vested interest in this subject. Are they willing to listen to licence holders views?
  
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Reply #13 - Apr 14th, 2018 at 10:09pm
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Could anybody point me in the direction of more information on these questions?  What was question number 4, exactly?
  
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Reply #14 - Apr 15th, 2018 at 12:24pm
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Hi Auckland\Waikato don't allow pond feeding after mark up.
Auckland\Waikato voted unaminsly no.
Members of the pubic culd have their say.
But no public turn up to meetings.
They grumble about decisions but don't come to have imput.
Yes the numbers are declined but last 2 years in Aucklan\Waikato are up to management and regulations.
These shooters complain about no ducks but most don't do any habitat enhancement trapping of predetors.
It starts at home in your back yard  Wink Wink
  
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