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H335 or 2206H ?
Jan 25th, 2018 at 5:32pm
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Hi guys,

pretty much down to theses two for reloading for my .223.
Which one would you think is better for 50-63gr projectiles out of a 16" barrel?

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Re: H335 or 2206H ?
Reply #1 - Jan 25th, 2018 at 8:59pm
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2206h works great,easy to use.
  
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Re: H335 or 2206H ?
Reply #2 - Jan 26th, 2018 at 8:46am
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In theory the ball powder H335 should be the better powder for the 223. Balance that though against availability and cost and I would favour the ADI powder. That a general statement Hodgdon versus ADI powders and particularly so when a lot of the Hodgdon powders are made by ADI. In the case of H335 it is not made by ADI.

I have had great results with BM2 and 2206. Unfortunately my stock of 2206 is coming to an end so will change to 2206H at some point.
The H335 is fractionally faster than the 2206H (in fact close to my 2206) and in theory would favour the lighter projectiles whilst the 2206H would favour the heavier. But there is nix in it.

If availability was never an issue I would probably go H335 in a 16" barrel but unfortunately have no personal experience with it. Use other type of ball powders though and like them.
  
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Reply #3 - Jan 28th, 2018 at 5:08pm
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Thank you guys for the response. Will start with H335 and see if I get good groups. If not I will go with 2206H.

Loading up some TTSX 55gr for deer and see how the V-Max 53gr performs on smaller critters.

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Re: H335 or 2206H ?
Reply #4 - Jan 29th, 2018 at 5:46pm
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I use 50 grn ttsx and have great faith in them on deer,use the 50 grn zmax for wallabies too,very effective.
went with 50 grn vs the 55s to keep speed up that wee bit more to help opening /expansion.
another powder worth a look is good old winchester 748...sometimes you can pick it up really cheap and ball powder sure does meter nicely.
  
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Reply #5 - Jan 29th, 2018 at 8:46pm
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Thanks for your reply,  Micky Duck.
I just ordered some in 55gr. I was hoping to get them to group as close as possible with the BST 55gr I use for pretty much everything from magpie's to red's at the moment. They are obviously designed for smaller critters but if the 223 is the only rifle you got, one get's pretty good at picking the sweet spot on bigger game - or pass on the shot. We'll see if my plan works ... Smiley
  
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Reply #6 - Feb 19th, 2018 at 10:14pm
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23.6gr of H335 C.O.L 2.180 for the Barnes TTSX 55gr is a winner out of my 16" if anyone is interested.
  
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Re: H335 or 2206H ?
Reply #7 - Feb 20th, 2018 at 5:19pm
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24gr BM2 using 55gr TSX is a winner out of my mates Browning.
  
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Reply #8 - Feb 20th, 2018 at 5:50pm
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25.5 gr 2206H, 55gr pill ( currently using blitz kings) CCI primers on whatever brass Im using.
16 inch barrel on a Baikal .223

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Re: H335 or 2206H ?
Reply #9 - Feb 22nd, 2018 at 7:43am
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My go-to recipe for the last 20 years has been 27.5 gn of Win748 pushing sierra 55gn spbt's out of a 21 inch barrel. Have a jar of expanded projos from recovered shoulder and neck shots. Most weigh 40ish gns, so very happy with weight retention.
  
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Re: H335 or 2206H ?
Reply #10 - Feb 22nd, 2018 at 11:56am
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I use same in 20" Tikka, have also used BM2 with similar accuracy, but 25.5 of 2206H 55gr (Vmax and SPBT) is my goto.

Radar wrote on Feb 20th, 2018 at 5:50pm:
25.5 gr 2206H, 55gr pill ( currently using blitz kings) CCI primers on whatever brass Im using.
16 inch barrel on a Baikal .223

Magic medicine Goats, Pigs and deer (Fallow and Sika)

Thats my go to.

  
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Re: H335 or 2206H ?
Reply #11 - Feb 24th, 2018 at 10:12am
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Powders I've used for the .223 have been AR2206H, BM2, CFE223 and a mate uses AR2208

I use AR2206H for my T3 .223 shooting 55 gr Sierras and that kills extremely well on deer (sika & Fallow) aswell as goats.

Another load I use is BM2 with 55 gr Hornady PSP and ironically that load shoots to the same point of impact as the Sierras, for some reason the Hornady's didn't like AR2206H

Another powder I tried was CFE223 which I liked for reloading but found it a dirty powder.

While I haven't tried it... a mate swears by AR22008 for his .222 and .223's and he has quite a few of them. Says they fly faster and kills better and I trust his judgement considering the number of animals he's shot but I've got all my loads sorted with other powders.

As for projectiles... I've used 55 gr Sierras on a lot of deer and they've killed really well, even used a couple of Hornady 55 gr Vmax's which were also leathel and turned the chest cavity to mush but I like a good lead tip.

The Hornady 55 gr PSP are a cheap projectile but don't over look them as they've proven to be an excellent choice.

I also got to shoot some 50 gr Targex projectiles in my .222 last December and while only having shot one deer so far with them, I was impressed with the wound channel. I also use 95 gr Targex in my .243 and again those projectiles have proven to be winners.

As for the Barnes... good luck with those as I couldn't get them to shoot well enough  Undecided they are a pricey projectile and I couldn't justify using them as I had so many other projectiles which did the deed for far less price!

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Re: H335 or 2206H ?
Reply #12 - Feb 25th, 2018 at 11:05am
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Thanks guys for publishing all your .223 loads - this thread turned out to be pretty cool Smiley

@ seventenths:
I did read about your 55gr Vmax's somewhere on another thread here. Shot a few deer with Ballistic Silvertip's (which is a varmint projectile just like the Vmax's) with no problem as long as you can circle the shot behind the shoulder bone or go for neck shots. Funny enough I never had one of mine hit a rib. How do the Vmax go if they hit a rib first?
Ah, and the Barnes TTSX are shooting just a tick over MOA @ 100m. Probably just me holding the rifle and load back to be honest...


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Reply #13 - Feb 25th, 2018 at 11:40am
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I can't recall whether the Vmaxs hit a rib or not... I was more interested in the chest cavity which was pulp.  Shocked

Even with the sierras I would just aim for the shoulder and shoot.

With the sierras and Hornday's I get clover leaf groups at 100 mtrs where as with the Barnes... I was getting 1.5 inch groupings from memory.

From what I've been told... you need to play with seating depth but as I already had good accurate loads with the Sierras which I was more than happy with I didn't bother to pursue the Barnes anymore as their just too expensive for what we do.

If you want to some Hornady or Sierras to try... flick me a PM and I'll send you some
  

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Reply #14 - Feb 25th, 2018 at 3:51pm
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seventenths wrote on Feb 25th, 2018 at 11:40am:
If you want to some Hornady or Sierras to try... flick me a PM and I'll send you some


Cheers, mate.
I have loaded around 30x of the Barnes for this season and have a box of Vmax 53gr here to play with as I can't get my Winchester 55gr BSP's anymore.
That should keep me busy but will definitely give the Sierras a try once I used up the Barnes.

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