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Jan 25th, 2018 at 4:42pm
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A couple of videos of how I take the knife handle from the square to the finished shape using bandsaw, belt grinder and rasp. All the knife details can be found on my website http://www.vongruffknives.com/ The JT Ranger knife in the last video is the prototype knife and the sample pic will be uploaded to the website in a week when the knife is finished although all the details are there under the knife design/other knives section.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXW1sGE_Jrg&feature=youtu.be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtyuCJYKez8&feature=youtu.be

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Reply #1 - Jan 26th, 2018 at 7:47am
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Great vids, your system is a lot more efficient than mine!
  
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Thanks Mitch. cutting the initial shape on the bandsaw has reduced the grinding belt usage and can now do over 4 to 5 times the number of handles on the one  belt than I could by doing it all on the belt grinder. I use the cheaper AO belts for the handles so I can keep a sharp belt that cuts quicker and more cleanly.
  

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Helpful videos ther vongruff. Just been re-shaping my old mans knife blade that snapped at the handle, just wondering what wood would you recommend for a handle? not too sure on where to look and what to look for. thanks anything helps
  
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Any of the hardwoods will make a good handle. I have used walnut, jarah, rimu, hickory, bluegum and a lot of exotic woods as well. The other thing you can use is to go to a kitchen bench maker and get a piece of corian which is one of the synthetics or make your own micarta with strips of paper, linnen or canvas soaked in fiberglass resin and pressed together.
  

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thanks ive actually got some fiberglass resin so might look into that. does the wood have to be dry? If I was to harvest my own how long would a good time to wait before I use it. cheers
  
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Hi Von Gruff - do you know where in NZ i would be able to purchase some loveless bolts?  Smiley
  

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Try Kerry at Gaeco 06 370 1683
  

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Hi there. I like the idea of shaping the handle with the bandsaw.
What about your stainless/brass pins, bolts, tubes etc that holds the scales to the tang? Doesn't that blunt your blade too much when cutting through them??
  

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Reply #11 - Jul 7th, 2019 at 9:13am
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I have bi metal blades (10 tpi) for my wood working bandsaw the same as the 18tpi bi meta blades on my meta cutting bandsaw. Buy from NZ Bandsaw Brian  09 267 8570
  

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Any more interesting knives for us to ogle VG ? Enjoyed looking at your work as things where made.
  
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Wasn't getting much conversation over them so stopped posting but have made over 250 in the last 18 mnths nad they have customers in 7 different countries now.
Buffalo horn and brass Safari Hunter

Damascus Buffalo skinner with buffalo horn bolster and spalted eucalyptus

Buffalo skinner with buffalo horn bolster and exhibition walnut, with a Pocket Ranger with Zebrawood.

Pair of daggers with brass and walnut

Buffalo skinner with copper and ebony

Pair of Old Westerns with Buffalo horn bolsters and Swamp Kauri

7 1/2 inch Chef with exhibition walnut

Hunter skinner with brass and Accacia

A pair of Bowies Copper and Tambotion one and micarta with eucalyptus on the other

Bowie with blued steel guard and eucalyptus



  

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General purpose kitchen knife with paper micarta and a paring knife with benchtop acrylic

A thumbrest skinner and a mini skinner, both with buffao horn bosters and accacia

A pair of Lion knives. One with Accacia and the other with eucalyptus

Mini skinner (buffao horn and wanut) and Hunter skinner with accacia

Filleter and Fisherman with natura canvas micarta

Safari knife  with buffalomhorn and zebrawood

set of table knives/steak knives with paper micarta over red liners

7 1/2 inch Chef with eucalyptus

Safari knife with buffalo horn

8 1/2 inch carving knife with paper micarta

AH EDC with Giraffe bone

Pair of 7 1/2 inch Chef knives with exhibition eucalyptus

Pair of Safari knives brass and buffalo horn and brass and giraffe bone

  

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Pair of buffalo skinners with buffao horn and eucalyptus

AH EDC with buffalo horn

Safari Hunter with buffalo horn and maple

Mini skinner with buffalo horn and eucalyptus

A few more ready to ship off

Chef set 7 1/2 inch, 5 1/2 inch, general purpose and a paring knife with paper micarta

Field scalpel with Beech Burl

Fisherman with walnut

Pair of buscraft hunters. one with Koa and the other with OD micarta

More bushcraft hunter

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Thumbrest skinner with swamp kauri

J T Ranger wth swamp kauri

A variety ready to go

Bowies, a skinner and a hunter skinner

Bowie, 2 pig stickers, J T Ranger,hunter skinner, skinner, bushcraft hunter and an A H EDC

GP, wapiti knife, hunter skinner, boner and fiel scapel


Hunter skinner with Myrtle

Bushcraft hunter with myrtle

hunter skinner with buffalo horn and accacia

thumbrest skinner with buffalo horn and accacia

Field scalpel with beech burl

This was for a road trip where I was seeing a few outlets

Table knives/side plate knives

Chef set with cleaver

Sgian Dubh

Wapiti knife with oak and walnut

Hunter Butcher and Big Game knife with buffalo horn and accacia

JT Ranger, lion kife and a pig sticker

pair of skinners. buffalo horn with swamp kauri and accacia

wapiti knife walnut) GP knife (buffalo horn and eucalyptus) and a safari knife with brass and zebrawood

A H EDC with spalted beech

Safari knife (brass and zebrawood) and bushcraft hunter with swamp kauri

Pair of J T Rangers one with swamp kauri the other with buffalo horn
  

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I think they don't get much conversation because they leave us speechless.
Such nice knives.
  
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WOW, simply fantastic. Thanks for putting those up for us all to see.
  
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bloody nice knives there  Cool
  

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wazza56 wrote on Aug 20th, 2019 at 1:26am:
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Thanks Wazza. Have a new project to show ater in the week and a few new knives with some damascus as well
  

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Got any on a shelf in the north island to look over/ hold ?
  
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Reply #23 - Aug 25th, 2019 at 5:32am
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David and Raylee at Magnum sports in Stratford carry a small selection and are the only North Island outlet.https://www.heartoftaranaki.nz/listing-item/magnum-sports-stratford/
Kelly Country in Brightwater and Elios in Dunedin have them in the South Island.
  

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Hey cheers for that. Both a good drive from Whangarei !
  
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tinass wrote on Aug 25th, 2019 at 1:19pm:
Hey cheers for that. Both a good drive from Whangarei !

There was to be an outlet in Tauranga. He ordered a 1/2 doz knives but never came through with payment so Stratford is it for up there.
  

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These five ready to ship. Raindrop stainless damascus. #1 is stabilised spalted eucalyptus with carbon fiber pins over copper curve backed bolster. #2 is Buffalo horn with blue liners over brass curve backed bolster. #3 is stabilsed spalted eucalyptus over ebony with carbon fiber pins. #4 is pig sticker with accacia over 1095 HC blade and #5 is Hunter kinner with accacia over 1084 HC blade 











  

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Macrocarpa on a 7 1/2 inch 12C27 stainless blade


  

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Todays handIe finishing

#1 is the hybrid hunter with Desert Ironwood over stainIess on the random pattern stainIess damascus bIade.





#2 is a Hunter Skinner with cherry burI over buffaIo horn boIster on the random pattern damascus bIade.



#3 is the Hybrid hunter with eucaIyptus over buff horn on the 1084 bIade.



#4 is the Iight hunter with Ieopardwood over buff horn on the 1084 bIade.





#5 is the hunter skinner with macrocarpa over buff horn on the 1084 bIade.



# 6 & 7 are the fishing set with bIack paper micarta over bIaze Iiners on the 12C27 bIades.



  

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I am now offering my (wood only at this stage) knife handles with the brass or nickle silver disc inlet for personalised initials etc by the customer. I may look at working through the process for bone and horn at a later date.



  

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After a great deal of time and expense the box finally arrived from South Africa with the giraffe bone and impala horn. Much of this is preordered for 7 giraffe bone and three impala horn handled knives but expect to have sufficient left for other orders in the near future.





  

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Everything finished now so was through to see friends this morning and fitted the grip sets to get some picsl








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I decided to cut the giraffe bone (or most of it) today to get enough for the knives that are ordered. All of the bones had one end cut off (to facillitate the process for export) so I marked the bone off in 5 inch lengths and cut them with the metal cutting bandsaw.





The knob end still had some of the porpous honeycomb type bone and was not usable but I got 4 good engths from each of the arger bones. One side of all the bones was too thin for the knife handles but may work for pocketknives which I do not do.





I have a guage for the other bandsaw that I use for cutting the scale thicknesses so set to (having the apropriate breathing gear on as there is a lot of dust made and floating in the air.



I managed to get three pieces plus core waste from the larger bones but just two from the smaller ones.



With enough cut for these ones. From the right is a Lion knife, 6 Safari knives and a Light Hunter. The last Safari knife (marked on the taped blade is to be this years knife giveaway and will have curve backed buffalo horn bolsters where the rest will be full giraffe bone handles.

  

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Having done that and having three of the Light hunters to do with the Impala horn handles I had a serious look at and some research on the usual handles done with this material and many are in fact bone jiged to resemble the horn so I found where the old time horners(those who work with the horn) would heat the horn to near 350F and it would become pliable so I did that and have it clamped flat so will see in the morning how it has reacted to this procedure. The orders are for handles from the horn that Tony had hunted and wanted for his sons so as there was a set of extra horns in the box I cut these first to check the process.

Cutting the appropriate length from the smaller set



Splitting them lengthwise and removing the core which is dried and loose inside.





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First stage completed sucessfully with only a short crack at the end that will not effect the length needed for a knife handle. There was some springback from the 9mm thick they were clamped (down from about 16mm) to but as this is old and very dry horn I am going to boil it next in black dyed water and re-clamp to fix the thickness needed. It was sugested that I use oil to boil/heat in but my concern is that there may be oil penetration into the horn and conflict with the epoxy

  

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A couple of new designs today. I killed one of my sheep for the freezer and two of the knives I use were in need of an update. Without going into the mechanics of sheep killing I needed a slightlu more directable handle and the knife I had been using for dicing the meat after it was boned out was proving unsatisfactory in that it had a wasted portion of the blade in the curve from the flat to the tip. and while the flat portion was good the curve to the tip made it unwieldly so a while back I made a shorter one but this showed the need for a longer flat portion.
I had wanted to do this for a while and this had prompted me to "get on with it".
The slaughterman has a 7 inch (1/8 1084) blade that I have made a fraction wider at the heel end and a little fuller in the handle while the dicer has a 7 1/2 in x 1/8 in 12C27 SS blade for a 12 1/2 overall length.

  

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Todays heat treat and grinding session gives me a few to handsand and start the bolster and handle process.

  

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Have some leatherwork ahead of me to get sheaths doen for this lot finished today.

A Light Hunter (1084) and a Lion knife (1095) with giraffe bone fixed with stainless pins.



An order for some Safari knives with giraffe bone on 1095 with titabium pins. There is another one to finish shaping the handles but that will join the group tomorrow.



A Mini Skinner in 1084 with spalted eucalyptus over curve backed buff horn bolsters with brass pins

  

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Reply #40 - Sep 25th, 2019 at 5:59pm
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And the new design knives for myself. The slaughterman with stainless 3 pin copper bolster and ebony handles with cpper pins on the 1084 blade.

The slicer is for when I have broken down an animal and want to dice the boned out meat. It has 3 brass pins in the copper bolster with copper pins in the ebony handles on the 12C27 stainless blade.



And this  with giraffe bone handles and titanium pins with 3 SS pins in the curve backed buff horn bolster on the 1095 blade.

  

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Reply #41 - Oct 7th, 2019 at 11:57am
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These are ready to ship
#1 is a Hunter skinner with raindrop damascus, buff bolsters and macrocarpa handles.
#2 is another giraffe bone handled Safari Knife
#3 is a buffalo handled Hunter skinner
#4 is an Acacia handled skinner and
#5 is a Skinner for me with curve backed copper bolsters and giraffe bone handles. Have given thae previous ones away but might just keep a hold of this one.




  

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Reply #42 - Oct 10th, 2019 at 5:22pm
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Finally finished the impala horn handled knives and quite pleased with the result. I used rimu as the bolster with a piece of black G10 facing and ebony for the pommel.


The ebony pommel was treated like the bolster end and socketed into the horn end with the threaded rod drilled into the ebony to create another gripping surface for the epoxy.



I added black dye to the epoxy and waited for everything to set up overnight.



This gave me the basis for the handle so a shaping session was next.

And with a fine sand and buffed it was time to add the finish to the resulting handle.



Looking from underneath or the blade edge side



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