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Re: RABBIT BIOCONTROL IN AUSTRALIA RHDV1 K5
Reply #75 - Apr 23rd, 2018 at 9:14pm
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I wonder why the Rabbit virus was released at the end of summer, instead of during the hot summer months, if they are going to rely on the fly as well to help spread it. As most of us know here in N.Z. during the winter months there are bugger all. Roll Eyes
  
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Reply #76 - Apr 23rd, 2018 at 10:18pm
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The authorities will claim its optimum time with breeding cycles etc..blah blah blah...an argument could be had to do it anytime other than spring really...but to be honest I laugh at the time it was delayed for sign off and no real tight and well co-ordinated ground plan put in place
Problem is that Authorities and local Govt very good at justifying and bambozling public with facts and reason most uneducated accept on industries just like pest control...
On the plus side Wallaby hunting in 15years will be great in Cromwell, Alex and Nasby! Grin Grin Grin
  
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Reply #77 - Apr 28th, 2018 at 3:33pm
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Seems EO is reporting some dead rabbits due to K5 but the cunning buggers don't mention any numbers . Cheesy Cheesy
  
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Reply #78 - Apr 28th, 2018 at 5:23pm
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Its good round Nasby already,i heard a couple of roos were shot while guys out hunting for stags.
  

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Reply #79 - Apr 28th, 2018 at 6:11pm
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Duxbac wrote on Apr 23rd, 2018 at 9:14pm:
I wonder why the Rabbit virus was released at the end of summer, instead of during the hot summer months, if they are going to rely on the fly as well to help spread it. As most of us know here in N.Z. during the winter months there are bugger all. Roll Eyes


Yes good thought and valid. Ive read that the K5 virus does well in a cooler climate so there may have been some confusion as to just what a temperature range constitutes a cooler climate. I doubt theres anywhere thats farmed in Oz that cool in winter actually compares to the coldness of areas in Otago and Canerbury.

The time of the year thats considered cool in Oz is just plain cold in NZ..

In the Mackenzie there hasnt been a single confirmation of killing rabbits till now but perhaps it just hasnt reached the news yet..

still waiting....perhaps someone from ecan knows something different.
  

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Reply #80 - Apr 28th, 2018 at 9:58pm
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Not a thing happening down here eather best keep that thermal warmed up hc
  
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Reply #81 - Apr 29th, 2018 at 9:49am
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It's known that the virus can wait up to a year for another host so while it may not make much head way during the winter it well might kick off come spring.
  
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Reply #82 - Apr 29th, 2018 at 12:35pm
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rabbiter wrote on Apr 29th, 2018 at 9:49am:
It's known that the virus can wait up to a year for another host so while it may not make much head way during the winter it well might kick off come spring.

This is not what authorities were planning for though...They took this time frame of spreading virus to optimise infection rate and get a kill count...all along ORC has said secondary control methods will need to be undertaken in winter and not to start until virus has done its thing...well nearly 8weeks has passed and another 4weeks and we are in winter....
So it looks like secondary control will fast track to initial control method if something does not happen quick smart!
Farmers have held of poison control methods on request and heavily rabbit infested farms are at breaking point with rabbit problem....
The only reason bugger all info or updates arnt coming through media is because the authorities having nothing positive to share...but an honest update of situation is needed including retweeking of message around control programmes this winter...
  
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Re: RABBIT BIOCONTROL IN AUSTRALIA RHDV1 K5
Reply #83 - Apr 29th, 2018 at 2:14pm
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Deer Whisperer wrote on Apr 29th, 2018 at 12:35pm:
rabbiter wrote on Apr 29th, 2018 at 9:49am:
It's known that the virus can wait up to a year for another host so while it may not make much head way during the winter it well might kick off come spring.

This is not what authorities were planning for though...They took this time frame of spreading virus to optimise infection rate and get a kill count...all along ORC has said secondary control methods will need to be undertaken in winter and not to start until virus has done its thing...well nearly 8weeks has passed and another 4weeks and we are in winter....
So it looks like secondary control will fast track to initial control method if something does not happen quick smart!
Farmers have held of poison control methods on request and heavily rabbit infested farms are at breaking point with rabbit problem....
The only reason bugger all info or updates arnt coming through media is because the authorities having nothing positive to share...but an honest update of situation is needed including retweeking of message around control programmes this winter...

I agree,seems alot of landowners layed off on control awaiting the K5 release however this rabbit problem has been building for a number of years yet some landowners have done little in the way of control work instead relying the old virus to kill rabbits when in some areas it hasn't ,these areas have become much larger now as a result.At one site only in aussie K5 had the best result of 47% in Nz it was excepted that our rabbits would be effected to lesser % yet nobody asked what are we planing on doing with the other 63% left alive?
 
  
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Reply #84 - Apr 29th, 2018 at 2:26pm
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Yes...it's a huge problem and I believe way past control now...hopes were pinned on this virus as a tool to get on top of problem then start some descent control programmes...
Although the new virus might well show some effects soon or in the future, it is not measuring up to expectations and very disheartening to all involved from farmers those who played part in getting it released...
I'm more dissapointed Authorities arnt front footing things better. If this release was as expected you bet they would have been heard taking credit and exhausting all media opportunities like prior to release...
They just need to front up and update people invested in the viability of this virus showing some positive effects!
  
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Reply #85 - Apr 29th, 2018 at 2:38pm
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Makes rabbiters look great again.  Grin
  

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Reply #86 - Apr 29th, 2018 at 9:33pm
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headcase wrote on Apr 29th, 2018 at 2:38pm:
Makes rabbiters look great again.  Grin


yep but trying to get cockies to pay for its another thing, a new ute and overseas holiday always seems to come ahead of pest control.


  
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Reply #87 - Apr 30th, 2018 at 12:25pm
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ORC on website request
  
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Reply #88 - Apr 30th, 2018 at 12:32pm
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ORC on website request people to be patient and full effects could be six weeks or more..
I guess we are well and true my in the more category now and suspect if nothing substantial happens in month of May then September onwards will be the next window of hope!
Until then what!..i suspect without some updating people will be put shooting rabbits...some already have got back into it and given up any hope of virus having an impact...
Rabbiting as #1 control  method  future...imagine that! Grin
  
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Reply #89 - Apr 30th, 2018 at 1:52pm
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The ODT reported something totaly different today.

The experts are saying it should spread in a 20km radius form every release site over the winter..

This according to the information given to farmers around here is at total loggerheads.

They were told reportedly,, that it would spread within days..also most had no idea it was only a projected 40% kill rate. They all had visions of piles of dead rabbits blocking the driveway. Either the cockys wernt listening at the meetings they had, or the information was not given out in a consistent and understandable way. 

This is why its so very important to get the correct information disseminated right from day one.. this avoids high and false expectations.

  

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