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Reply #15 - Nov 28th, 2017 at 4:59pm
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There is a page with a link on Facebook called firearm owners United nz which all you have to do is tap on it and it will take you to your email address and then you hit send it’s a pretty well worded email
  
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Reply #16 - Nov 28th, 2017 at 5:35pm
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This statistic finally released by the Police under the OIA might be useful to cite too: Of the last 100 incidents of serious gun offending – only ONE involved a licensed firearm user.
  

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Reply #17 - Nov 28th, 2017 at 7:19pm
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http://www.founz.co.nz/

You only have 2 days to make submissions people - please dont say its too hard . The FOUNZ link makes it so easy that anyone could do it .

So do it now , huh ?
  

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Reply #18 - Nov 29th, 2017 at 10:05am
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THE FOUNZ, SUPER SIMPLE, POLICE SECURITY POLICY SUBMISSION.

How simple? All you need to do is click the link below:

https://tinyurl.com/ya9mcnde

This link will open your email client with a formatted policy submission template. You only need to click send and its done.

We would prefer you to personalise it. Modify, add, change the wording if you like. Also change the subject line and the signature at the bottom.

You will note that we are sending this submission to Stuart Nash first as minister of police. FOUNZ strongly believes that it is the politicians under our direction who make the law - not the police. We have also cc'ed in the police submission address and the FOUNZ address.
  

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Reply #19 - Nov 29th, 2017 at 10:25am
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Hey Digit, tried that and noth.ing opened up
  
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Re: Police public consultation on firearm security.
Reply #20 - Nov 29th, 2017 at 10:28am
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Oscar wrote on Nov 28th, 2017 at 5:35pm:
This statistic finally released by the Police under the OIA might be useful to cite too: Of the last 100 incidents of serious gun offending – only ONE involved a licensed firearm user.


Be careful, that could be used as a solid case for better storage requirements.
  
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Reply #21 - Nov 29th, 2017 at 1:07pm
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put in my submission ,thanks for putting up the info digit and thanks for your help too,hawken 50
  
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Reply #22 - Nov 29th, 2017 at 1:22pm
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Hi Terry - try this below. Its a copy paste of the submission -
Cheers

EMAILStuart.Nash@parliament.govt.nz
cc secure-storage-firearms@police.govt.nz, info@founz.co.nz

SUBJECT Police Firearm Security Policy Submission

Dear Stuart,

I have identified these issues with the police's request for submissions and the actual police policy

itself.

1) They have effectively given licence holders 1 week to make a submission.

2) Police are attempting to reclassify A Cat semi Automatics into their own security requirements.

3) Police will force you to agree to the requirements of their policy (and possibly all future illegal and

ultra vires policies) by signing a contract.

4) Police have mixed policy with law giving the impression to licence holders that this document is the

law. Policy and legal requirement should be separated clearly and concisely to avoid confusion.

5) These policies directly affect those who do not own their own home by forcing onerous security

requirements that may not be possible for those renting a house.

6) A situation now exists where police believe they have authority to implement their policy as law which

they do not.

I fear police will attempt to codify all policies such as the Pol67N and S43A mail order into law without

following the correct parliamentary process. I object to police making law.

Police are acting outside of their authority and attempting to circumvent due process.

Kind Regards

FOUNZ member.
  

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Reply #23 - Nov 30th, 2017 at 5:24am
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Today is the last day for making a submission guys.

Please make the effort , the hard work has been done for you so there is no excuse. This is really important for all of us so take a few minutes out of your day to do it .

  

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Reply #24 - Dec 2nd, 2017 at 2:24pm
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Won't make a blind bit of difference to public safety, no matter what the security requirements are.....until the law starts to treat seriously the actual theft of firearms (and burglary in general) ain't nothing going to improve.
  
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Reply #25 - Dec 2nd, 2017 at 3:26pm
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What puzzled me about these new standards that the police want implemented is that it would be ok to keep shotguns (the robbers best friend) in a plywood box, provided the box couldn’t be opened within 3 minutes with basic hand tools.
Pretty sure the average burglar could get into any plywood box in no time with an axe.
  
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Reply #26 - Dec 3rd, 2017 at 7:40am
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Not to mention the fixation on 'British standard' for  approved safes.....not quite sure what that has to do with us, we are not in Britain.
  
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