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Re: Bad Boar.....
Reply #15 - Nov 16th, 2017 at 7:00pm
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Oscar wrote on Nov 16th, 2017 at 6:12pm:
Alan wrote on Nov 16th, 2017 at 4:05pm:
This is generating some media attention.... I would appreciate any information anyone has so I'm well informed....


Have you had a look on Facebook? No doubt all the answers are there.  Smiley

Saw a Dr quoted as suspecting botulism?

and the loonies have a few theories to Roll Eyes
  
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Re: Bad Boar.....
Reply #16 - Nov 16th, 2017 at 7:01pm
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I can echo 'brian' here - I ate the hind legs from possums I cyanided for a full winter season and suffered no effects.

I did however suffer from eating pork when I was a youngster - would double me up with stomach gripes shortly after eating it and I'd be compelled to spend the evening on the crapper.

Was only ever pork (domestic and wild) that did that - and now I seem to have outgrown it.
  
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Re: Bad Boar.....
Reply #17 - Nov 16th, 2017 at 7:05pm
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Lots of unknowns here. WE dont know how the gent caught the boar.  Caught beng an interesting thing. Poisened? We dont know if the organs were part of the meal. Its entirely possible that a liver or kidneys were eaten.  Might be a few wild mushrooms have been also added to the mix..



  

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Reply #18 - Nov 16th, 2017 at 7:29pm
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yere I agree to many unknowns..... I suspect it will be something they ate with with the meal or day before..
  

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Reply #19 - Nov 17th, 2017 at 3:26am
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warm weather the meat could easily have gone off?  surely it couldnt be any poisons 1080etc as if levels were high enough to secondary poison then the animal wouldve been very sick, or he harvested an already dead animal.

are there any plants/roots pigs eat that they can build up toxins from like tutu etc?
  
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Re: Bad Boar.....
Reply #20 - Nov 17th, 2017 at 4:18am
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They did say that the children ate everything that their parents ate-except the wild pork.
So that narrows down the cause.
  

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Reply #21 - Nov 17th, 2017 at 7:19am
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Apparently they said the pig was shot. My money is on botulism but obviously it's a guessing game. Of course it is also possible that it was a domestic and the meal was deliberately poisoned.
Time may tell
  
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Re: Bad Boar.....
Reply #22 - Nov 17th, 2017 at 7:41am
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Whatever the cause is it’s given me a reminder about cooling my kill quickly.
Not sure about everyone else but I find it difficult to leave meat to rot on the hill.
Morning hunt, sun coming up, long carry back to truck.
Recipe for disaster.
I’ll be sticking to evening hunts over summer I think, and carry out in the dark and take straight to chiller rather than hang it in shed till morning.
  
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Re: Bad Boar.....
Reply #23 - Nov 17th, 2017 at 11:03am
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EC wrote on Nov 16th, 2017 at 5:54pm:
Tararua Hunter wrote on Nov 16th, 2017 at 5:46pm:
Alan wrote on Nov 16th, 2017 at 5:37pm:
couldn't be 1080 could it or could it be something they ate with it... I'm on newstalk hoskings  at 7 am... I think its important we dont gettoo carried away until we know what it is.... but its pretty unheard of to get poisoned by fresh wild meat... unless it was really sick and then you would think cooking it would have done it... and you would know when you gutted it or looked at it..

to react that quick, no it couldn't
And theyd have to eaten the organs full of 1080 to get a lethal dose, I imagine
Theres probably several possible causes, more likely than 1080.
Ask a doctor Smiley


Sounds like the Doctor has just spoken  Roll Eyes


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Re: Bad Boar.....
Reply #24 - Nov 17th, 2017 at 11:50am
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There are several deaths a year, often a whole family, from eating
Amanita ocreata or phalloides , commonly known as the death angel, death cap, or Destroying Angel They are common worldwide and grow in New Zealand too pretty much overall Id think. They look a lot like young common edible field mushrooms, which fools lots of people and taste pretty mushroomy too..

Takes 3 days to get really sick and then its already too late. Destroys the liver. 

Just saying case anyone's ever tempted to grab a few to complement  a freshly shot deer liver served up to the family.


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Reply #25 - Nov 17th, 2017 at 1:11pm
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Pork goes off faster than veni due to a higher fat content, fact or fiction?
  
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Reply #26 - Nov 17th, 2017 at 1:17pm
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Re: Bad Boar.....
Reply #27 - Nov 17th, 2017 at 2:05pm
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Stagrinon wrote on Nov 17th, 2017 at 1:11pm:
Pork goes off faster than veni due to a higher fat content, fact or fiction?

Quite likely. Venison tends to keep for ages.

I treat wild pork like chicken.  Never had any probs.

Couple of rules which I try to follow:
Cool it down as much as possible, as fast as possible.
Never let it get warm. (not always that easy when you are carrying it out).
Get it below 4* as soon as you can.
Cook it till piping hot. I find the flavour improves the hotter it is, so aren’t afraid to give it hell!
  
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Re: Bad Boar.....
Reply #28 - Nov 17th, 2017 at 3:25pm
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I have found it goes off way faster than venison. Flies seem like it more too.
  

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Re: Bad Boar.....
Reply #29 - Nov 17th, 2017 at 5:07pm
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....and the verdict....Botulism.
Must have been from something else surly. freshly killed that day even on a hot day thats seems to quick for the bot to take hold, from what I've read. And a min of 6 hours to show symptoms they say. So not even in the ball park of dinner that night
So sounds like he himself is not a hanter as such, just went along on some hunts with others and "acquired" said pork. Im thinking not from that days kill..
I feel a lot safer now on my efforts of meat hunting.
But man, Really hope they come through ok. Very hard on all concerned.
  
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