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Sep 17th, 2017 at 1:51pm
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I have read this is a very accurate round but would like to hear peoples thoughts on using it as a long range hunting rifle in NZ.

Does it have the knock down power on a bull tahr or red stag at 5,6,700 yards?

Would love to hear how many guys are using these and what the general opinion is.

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Re: 6.5 Creedmoor
Reply #1 - Sep 17th, 2017 at 5:48pm
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Don't use one myself but it is designed mainly as a target round to produce good accuracy without killing the barrel quickly. Be aware that most load data is for 28-30 inch barrels so it doesn't offer anything more then a standard 22" barrelled 260 rem or 6.5x55 swede.
  

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Reply #2 - Sep 17th, 2017 at 9:30pm
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Yep Walker is onto it.... In a hunting style rifle not a whole lot in it over the Swede or .260.. I've got a ,260 and shoot 140g pills at about 2725 ,,, As the 140 Amax has a stupidly high BC it will reach out† but how far will depend on the day ,† your ability and shot placement but given the right conditions 600m would seem very reasonable to me . I've done a fair bit of load development work and know i can hit little things a long way away but more importantly know when i'll struggle due to conditions ,, If you also do the work it will be fine . Wink
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Reply #3 - Sep 18th, 2017 at 7:47pm
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There's nothing wrong with it, but it doesn't do anything that .260, 6.5x55 and 6.5x47 Lapua don't already do. It's the latest fashion item in the US and gets a lot of press as a result.

Personally I use heavy for calibre projectiles in 7mm and .30 cal chamberings (.284 Win with 162s and .300 Win Mag with 208s, with a 7mm Rem Mag with 180s on the cards too), but any of the 6.5s with 140s will do the job well too.
  
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Reply #4 - Oct 7th, 2017 at 9:52pm
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Yeah, Almost identical ballistics with 260. but with much better availability. I have been loading my with hornady 143 ELDX bullets to 2650 fps in my 21.5 inch barrel.
Goats and Deer went down with no complaint out to 300 meters.

  
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Reply #5 - Oct 9th, 2017 at 1:04pm
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G'Day Fella's,

Southendstalka, the 6.5 Creedmore, is just an "American Made" version/variation of the 6.5x47 Lapua cartridge (which was introduced in 2006).
In reality, both these cartridges are a .250 Savage/.22-250 Rem case, necked up to 6.5mm.
I have a 6.5x47Lap and it is incredibly accurate with 140ish grn bullets at 2700ish fps.

As the other blokes have said above, for hunting, an accurate .260, 6.5x55 or the .270Win would be better options.

Hope that helps

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Reply #6 - Nov 24th, 2017 at 12:11pm
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I also read some of the hype to do with the creedmore and wondered if it was more marketing.

I am interested to know if any one has shot one and what the recoil is like compared to something bog standard, like a .308.

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Reply #7 - Nov 24th, 2017 at 3:36pm
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G'Day Fella's,

So1W, what people say about a cartridge when it's used for shootin paper Targets, does not automatically translate it into an effective Hunting cartridge at those same Target ranges.
IMHO, at best, the 6.5 Creedmore is an effective short to mid range Hunting cartridge.


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Reply #8 - Dec 16th, 2017 at 2:05pm
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I swapped a 7mm08 for a 6.5 creedmore (Ruger Predator) in a hunting rifle. It was loaded up pretty hot with 147 ELD match, and it was pretty unpleasant to shoot, with the amount of recoil it generated.
I shoot F/TR class with fairly warm loads in .308, with 190gn projectiles. I can shoot all day long with that. Approx. 84 rounds on a given day.

Shooting this 6.5 creedmore was unpleasant after about 8 rounds.  So, I took it to Scott Trail, and he re-chambered it to .260Rem, and I lived happily ever after.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Also own a couple of 6.5x55's, which happen to be my go-to hunting calibre.

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Reply #9 - Dec 27th, 2017 at 9:34pm
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What wizardry did Scott perform that would make a rifle re-chambered in a larger capacity round more pleasant to shoot. You've left something out here that perhaps you could enlighten us on?
  
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Reply #10 - Dec 28th, 2017 at 7:09am
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Agreed- if you pumped the .260 up to the same 147 loads, it'll have just as much recoil. Did you have a better recoil pad or brake/can fitted??
  
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Reply #11 - Dec 28th, 2017 at 12:41pm
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The 6.5 CM is as good a 6.5 cartridge as any of the others, they all fire 140+ gn projectiles at about the same speed. Except the 6.5-06, which has maybe 2-300fps advantage. So pick any of them they will do the job, and the CM is just as capable, real tolerant to reload, and good quality ammo is available at most decent gunshops - and same goes for the 6.5 Swede. So all being relatively equal, the down range ballistics will be relatively equal, and the recoil will be relatively equal. Very pleasant calibre to shoot.
  
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Re: 6.5 Creedmoor
Reply #12 - Dec 29th, 2017 at 12:17pm
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I'll find out about the recoil in the day or so, once I've reloaded, and put some rounds through the re-chambered rifle. Recoil is not all to do with case capacity alone.
The Creedmore rounds I was given were loaded up with RL.. something or other, and 147gn ELD-M. I'll be using AR2208 and 143gn ELD-X.

Brass is a heck of a lot easier to source with 260Rem. I'll be re-purposing Norma 7mm08.

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Re: 6.5 Creedmoor
Reply #13 - Dec 29th, 2017 at 1:32pm
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Availability of loaded ammunition with suitable bullets I canít comment on, but if you arenít going to reload then this may be the single most important consideration.

There are one or two further differences between these four (.260, 6.5x55, 6.5CM,† 6.5x47) that may influence your choice & build:

The 6.5x47 has a small primer pocket, and latterly the Creedmore Lapua brass also has the small pocket. Higher peak pressures can be accommodated before web expansion occurs. Other aspects being equal, small pocket brass will last longer if reloading.

Again another thing to consider if a reloader: accuracy can benefit from experimentation with cartridge overall length. If shooting the 140gr class of bullet for high BC then short-action receivers may be restrictive. The 6.5x47 is pretty much OK in this regard, while the 6.5x55 needs a medium-length action to seat these bullets long. For the other two it pays to get out the verniers and take some measurements prior to committing to a build - particularly if hoping to load for touching or jammed.† †† †† †
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The accuracy of a rifle or cartridge is never a given until tested. It always comes down to probability. Better components only increase the likelihood of a better result. Even with a lifetime of shooting 6.5s in various guises there are too many variables for any one person to make a definitive claim between the accuracy potential of these cartridges. There are however thousands of anecdotal reports in print and online, and the average view starts to hold weight. While as a group these four cartridges designs all appear to have above average accuracy potential, from my reading the 6.5x47 would be a good choice.

Donít neglect including barrel length in your considerations for a dedicated long range rifle, as any differences between the velocity capabilities of these cartridges can be swallowed up by a 2Ē change. Surprising as it may sound, a 30Ē barrel will give MVs of between 2900ft/sec and 3000ft/sec for 140gr bullets at the published cartridge maximum peak pressures, while typical sporter length barrels would be 200ft/sec less. This may in your mind make the difference as to suitability or otherwise on tahr & red deer at the distances you mentioned.
  
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Reply #14 - Dec 29th, 2017 at 1:44pm
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I'm not sure being able to modify 7-08 passes as making the .260 easier to source?  For ready-to-load accuracy nothing IMO beats a blue box from Belmont ammunition, and all four of the above designs are available, so no difference there.
  
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