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Re: Molesworth 1080
Reply #15 - Nov 24th, 2017 at 5:01pm
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Apparently the dose rate was doubled. I hope this isn't a precursor for the future. ie Targeting the Deer Herds.
  
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Re: Molesworth 1080
Reply #16 - Nov 24th, 2017 at 5:19pm
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hawken 50 wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 5:01pm:
Apparently the dose rate was doubled. I hope this isn't a precursor for the future. ie Targeting the Deer Herds.

The normal (and registered) ratefor possums  is .15 percent of 1080 per tonne of bait.
To increase the rate of 1080 toxin, the agency has to get registration first
might pay to check if the actual rate of toxin was actually increased
  
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Re: Molesworth 1080
Reply #17 - Nov 24th, 2017 at 7:24pm
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2kg/ha of 6gram baits were broadcast. Quite clearly able to kill nearly 100% at that rate.
Mathias, you most likely will find there may be a lot more than that killed. What is worse is the number of live ones in there. The word wipeout comes to mind.
Marlborough Deerstalkers have conducted a post drop survey that will be made public at some stage it's got some info on their Facebook page, worth reading.
  
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Re: Molesworth 1080
Reply #18 - Nov 24th, 2017 at 9:10pm
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A email discussion I had a couple of years ago over a drop in the Whirinaki I was told by Ospri that they have no made date to target deer. I said you should be using repellent and was told its too expensive.  The Sika Foundation have them using repellent all over the Kaimanawa's and Kaweka's so there's no reason for it not to be used everywhere else.
  
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Reply #19 - Nov 25th, 2017 at 8:16pm
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345 ! Makes my eyes water!!
  
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Reply #20 - Nov 25th, 2017 at 9:08pm
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The whole molesworth got divided up into 3 areas. Nine years of drops, one every year so each area gets 3 drops every 3 years.
The deer and the good stags are going to be hit hard . If that was 345 dead deer was that in just one of the 3 areas then? As each area is getting 3 drops over nine years im sure only one area was being bombed this year and another next etc etc.
Deer and pigs would have been a welcome by kill as big area and many animals in there(were) but it be pretty fu ked now
  
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Reply #21 - Nov 25th, 2017 at 9:10pm
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One drop every 3 years for 3 drops over 9 years that was....wheres the edit feature gone !!
  
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Reply #22 - Nov 25th, 2017 at 9:34pm
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On vectors website 61500 ha of the molesworth is being bombed in this opertion. Only states 2000 ha will have deer repellant.   Im sure this will be useful...not Cry
  
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Re: Molesworth 1080
Reply #23 - Nov 26th, 2017 at 7:09am
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Size of repellant area was disappointing and most likely ineffective. This area has been producing heads approaching 400DS the last few years and what has happened in there is disgusting. DOC employees have seen it along with a few others and the ones responsible for the drop should be made to see it as well, it's a complete horror show in there.
  
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Reply #24 - Nov 26th, 2017 at 8:01am
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Ospri and DOC are out of control.
  
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Reply #25 - Nov 26th, 2017 at 8:30am
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100 parties are booked in for the roar in there, they will probably notice the carcasses round, there's plenty to see.
  
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Reply #26 - Nov 26th, 2017 at 10:51am
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Bloody disgusting to think that a prime red deer herd with the trophy potential Ive seen first hand, will be all but wiped-out.
This has been to date an awesome place to take young fella's so that they could see animals as well as have the chance at a genuine trophy, but sadly those days are short numbered. Given DOC's intention for ongoing poisoning, the reality is that the public land hunting opportunities that Molesworth provided  are pretty much buggered.
This could only happen in NZ
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Re: Molesworth 1080
Reply #27 - Nov 26th, 2017 at 11:02am
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no one but selfish hunters care about deer and pigs... thought you lot wouldve worked that out by now and found something other the 1080 to whinge about, 1080 is here to stay until theres a new alternative thats just as effective mayby concerntrate efforts on that instead of dead deer counts and a few pathetic social media posts.
  
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Re: Molesworth 1080
Reply #28 - Nov 26th, 2017 at 11:21am
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Bos, complain to Ospri/tbfree and DOC. And maybe donate to the Marlborough Deerstalkers post operation survey costs, they have put a lot of time into this, nothing to lose there's even a guided tahr hunt up for grabs if you do.
Also many say only the high sowing rates used in the past kill all the deer, 2kg/ha has killed them all in this case.  From what I have seen I don't think even finding fresh sign may be possible let alone a live one.
  
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Re: Molesworth 1080
Reply #29 - Nov 26th, 2017 at 12:30pm
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Ruger260 wrote on Nov 26th, 2017 at 8:01am:
Ospri and DOC are out of control.


They are well and truly ( in  control ) and have been for a long time,,most hunters /people just don't get it.
The eradication of deer is well underway.
They want them gone full stop.


  

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