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Re: Shotgun shells and plastics
Reply #30 - Aug 20th, 2017 at 6:59pm
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Flintlock wrote on Aug 14th, 2017 at 9:59am:
GDMP wrote on Aug 13th, 2017 at 11:51am:
Federal currently load 12 gauge trap loads with paper cases, they are very popular with shooters in the USA,as they are reported to give somewhat softer recoil than similar loadings in plastic cases.Have not seen any on the NZ market but hopefully some will be imported in future.


Many years ago I purchased 50 cases of Federal paper case paper wad trap 7 off a cruise ship , they used to have trap shooting off the stern , then throw the paper empties into the sea . They didn't have any passengers interested in shooting so they dumped off the ammo and guns super cheap to get rid of the hassle of the paperwork needed in each new country and port .
It was great ammo patterned well with mild recoil and the powder burnt with a distinctive pleasant smell

Nice score!.Would love to see some of this ammo in NZ I believe it would have a market as many of us remember and prefer the old paper hulls.
  
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Re: Shotgun shells and plastics
Reply #31 - Jun 5th, 2018 at 9:18pm
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I see Gamebore now have a biodegradable wad in steel loads.

Google: Gamebore 12g-silver-steel

I Contacted Kilwell who import game bore but they said "Unless we get reasonable enquiries it is not financial for us to be sitting on a pallet of shotshell that we cannot move on before and after the Duck shooting season"

I have no idea of cost or performance.  Interested in thoughts of others.  Would or has anyone tried fibre wad with steel loads?
  
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Reply #32 - Jun 9th, 2018 at 7:29pm
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I have seen these steel shells with the bio-degradeable wads for sale here...think the wad is actually fiber not some type of plastic wad that degrades.So they have already been imported at some point.
  
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Reply #33 - Jun 26th, 2018 at 8:40am
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Just been hunting on a high country station that fires thousands of plastic shotgun shells when controlling rabbits with a helicopter. Eighty thousand rounds back in 1996 you can not find any trace of the shells on the ground all have broken down
, is this F & G making another half cocked assumption ?.
  
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Reply #34 - Jun 26th, 2018 at 10:17am
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Could be, but probably more to do with leaving a public area free of rubbish and showing the land owner some respect for the use of his land.
  

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Reply #35 - Jun 26th, 2018 at 6:19pm
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Upland Hunter wrote on Jun 26th, 2018 at 8:40am:
Just been hunting on a high country station that fires thousands of plastic shotgun shells when controlling rabbits with a helicopter. Eighty thousand rounds back in 1996 you can not find any trace of the shells on the ground all have broken down
, is this F & G making another half cocked assumption ?.


Broken down into what ? Read the bit about photodegradation v biodegradation... and how plastic enters the food chain when it has been "broken down"

http://plastic-pollution.org/

F and g making a half cocked assumption ? Not them doing that .

To be honest i dont like paper cases as i have had issues with them swelling and getting stuck in my chamber.. However it annoys me intensly to see plastic cases littering the shore line where i shoot. It is public land [DOC land] and i can imagine other users of that land saying those duck shooters are filthy buggers !

My guess is F and G are looking out for us and the environment.


  
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Re: Shotgun shells and plastics
Reply #36 - Jun 28th, 2018 at 4:47pm
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Continuing on with F and G are looking after us..

Today i was out walking with my dog and she stuck her nose in the air and glanced over her shoulder and i had a look where she was looking. There was a big yellow seed sack. So i went and had a look and inside was breasted duck carcases thrown in someones tree break for all the world to see  Embarrassed. Un bloody believeable...what were these guys thinking ???
Duck hunters filthy buggers...

It is a good job F and G are doing there best to look after us because sure as eggs it appears some of us are not.
  
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