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Re: Lead shot ban
Reply #15 - Jun 12th, 2017 at 7:59pm
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the decision was not the waikato fish and game council it was done by the nz council from magie barry we were advised bout it Angry Angry Angry
  
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Re: Lead shot ban
Reply #16 - Jun 13th, 2017 at 11:15am
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Ide say it will be a hard call for ammo supplyers to know what steel loads to stock for sub gauges because alot of sub gauge users will be going back to 12ga.
  
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Re: Lead shot ban
Reply #17 - Jun 13th, 2017 at 2:48pm
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One of the main causes of the introduction of  this ban is the number of shooters who swung to 20ga to get around the problem of suspected poor performance of steel shot .

I haven't been able to find a copy of the proposed changes so
I'm not sure but, I believe the 410 exemption will be for kids only .

Rio makes a full range of Bisthmus shot shells , and Hevi shot make a full range of tungsten based shells , it is just a matter of affording it  Sad
  

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Reply #18 - Jun 13th, 2017 at 3:03pm
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HUNTEE wrote on Jun 12th, 2017 at 7:59pm:
the decision was not the waikato fish and game council it was done by the nz council from magie barry we were advised bout it Angry Angry Angry


Don't sweat it. 95% of game bird hunters and trout anglers have no idea how F&G works.  Sad
  
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Reply #19 - Jun 13th, 2017 at 3:51pm
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Don't sweat it. 95% of game bird hunters and trout anglers have no idea how F&G works.  Sad [/quote]

That reminds me , at the time of the original lead shot ban discussions , the banning of lead in fresh water fishing, lead lines , lures and downriggers etc , was also being discussed  , did that ever come about or is the Fishing lobby too strong ?
  

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Reply #20 - Jun 13th, 2017 at 8:03pm
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Flintlock wrote on Jun 13th, 2017 at 2:48pm:
One of the main causes of the introduction of  this ban is the number of shooters who swung to 20ga to get around the problem of suspected poor performance of steel shot .

I haven't been able to find a copy of the proposed changes so
I'm not sure but, I believe the 410 exemption will be for kids only .

Rio makes a full range of Bisthmus shot shells , and Hevi shot make a full range of tungsten based shells , it is just a matter of affording it  Sad

I don't see how the .410 exemption could only be for kids....as that would surely be age discrimination.
  
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Re: Lead shot ban
Reply #21 - Jun 13th, 2017 at 10:11pm
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GDMP wrote on Jun 13th, 2017 at 8:03pm:
Flintlock wrote on Jun 13th, 2017 at 2:48pm:
One of the main causes of the introduction of  this ban is the number of shooters who swung to 20ga to get around the problem of suspected poor performance of steel shot .

I haven't been able to find a copy of the proposed changes so
I'm not sure but, I believe the 410 exemption will be for kids only .

Rio makes a full range of Bisthmus shot shells , and Hevi shot make a full range of tungsten based shells , it is just a matter of affording it  Sad

I don't see how the .410 exemption could only be for kids....as that would surely be age discrimination.


As a professional old fart I can tell you that age discrimination is not against the law  Angry Sad Shocked Angry
  

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Re: Lead shot ban
Reply #22 - Jun 14th, 2017 at 1:42pm
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I cant see there be many adults going to be using .410 . Ive had hunters look at me and the kids and think im bullshitting them when i tell them the kids have shot parries and swans with the .410 ive even had them say what are you going to kill with that thing little do they know its firing pellets the same speed as their 12ga. Cheesy
  
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Re: Lead shot ban
Reply #23 - Jun 15th, 2017 at 7:27pm
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right on hauraki
  
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Re: Lead shot ban
Reply #24 - Jun 15th, 2017 at 7:54pm
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Just show that if the pellets are put in the right places at the right range they will kill,no matter what you use,good on you hauraki,steel does the same thing, Wink Wink
  
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Reply #25 - Jun 15th, 2017 at 7:57pm
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so .410 semis for the future.  Smiley
  
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Reply #26 - Jun 15th, 2017 at 11:55pm
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What about muzzleloaders - will they still be able to shoot lead ?
  
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Re: Lead shot ban
Reply #27 - Jun 16th, 2017 at 10:50am
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[quote author=1B61106104630761570 link=1496864464/26#26 date=1497570957]What about muzzleloaders - will they still be able to shoot lead ?[/quote]
There wouldnt be more than a hand full of muzzleloader shotgunners in NZ and couldnt see more duck hunters going down that path so they can use lead ide say they will leave them alone. Smiley
  
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Reply #28 - Jun 16th, 2017 at 2:27pm
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looks like the agents might be selling a load of .410 inserts for 12gauges ?????????????????
  
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Re: Lead shot ban
Reply #29 - Jun 16th, 2017 at 5:32pm
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hauraki hunter wrote on Jun 16th, 2017 at 10:50am:
There wouldnt be more than a hand full of muzzleloader shotgunners in NZ and couldnt see more duck hunters going down that path so they can use lead ide say they will leave them alone. Smiley


I only have two shotties, both BP and one a muzzleloader.
I only found out recently the ML was steel exempt, so hope that continues - purely for selfish reasons.

  
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