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Feb 24th, 2017 at 9:09am
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Hey team,

We're going to purchase a another boat.
From previous experience we have had older two stroke engines and have used them for both trout and big game salt water traulling.
I've found some to stink the place out with fumes and know they are OK for this but also know four stroke are not deal; however have a much higher price tag.

How many people here traul with two strokes between a 90-115hp outboard and do you find them a stinky or smokey at all or good as gold.

Do they commonly choke up and not want to travel at traul speed for long.

test running through the muffs as you would cleaning would test for how clean the motor will run Pte purchase??

Advice please!

We're currently looking at boats and hope to buy this weekend.  Smiley

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Reply #1 - Feb 24th, 2017 at 9:43am
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keen1 wrote on Feb 24th, 2017 at 9:09am:
Hey team,

We're going to purchase a another boat.
From previous experience we have had older two stroke engines and have used them for both trout and big game salt water traulling.
I've found some to stink the place out with fumes and know they are OK for this but also know four stroke are not deal; however have a much higher price tag.

How many people here traul with two strokes between a 90-115hp outboard and do you find them a stinky or smokey at all or good as gold.

Do they commonly choke up and not want to travel at traul speed for long.

test running through the muffs as you would cleaning would test for how clean the motor will run Pte purchase??

Advice please!

We're currently looking at boats and hope to buy this weekend.  Smiley

Thanks in advance



Hey Keen1, I am no expert but we have been doing a bit of research on 2 strokes vs 4 strokes, I decided that at the end of the day the modern 2 smokers work out a bit more cost efficient if you do a lot of boating, especially over a few years.

Personally if you want to do a lot of slow trolling/harling etc I would look at a small auxiliary motor  to attach, just for that purpose.
  
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Reply #2 - Feb 24th, 2017 at 2:30pm
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Four strokes seem to be a lot quieter. If I was doing lots of trolling that would be a factor to consider
  

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Reply #3 - Feb 24th, 2017 at 10:50pm
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buy a Honda mate even a good second hand one they are the bench mark of reliability cheap to run and just keep going Smiley
  

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Reply #4 - Feb 25th, 2017 at 1:06pm
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Why don't you by a small auxiliary for trawling? That way you keep the hours down on your big motor and get better resale value.
  
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Reply #5 - Feb 25th, 2017 at 2:28pm
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there is trolling and there is trolling

game fishing lure trolling no worries, slow trolling and they, 2 strokes, will still oil.

modern high pressure 2 stroke technology whilst a vast improvement over the 'old tech' motors has to a degree stalled somewhat due to the worlds slant to an emmission free world and hence 4 strokes are where advancements and tech are mainly focussed these days. The majority of outboard maunfacturers react primarily to the Americas market. There are waterways, both salt and fresh in the US where you arent even allowed to use a 2s.

That said, high pressure and old tech 2strokes still feature on thousands of boats around NZ and will do for a long long time. They are of course still made new and are still advancing and when weight and price amongst other things are important they are a prime consideration. Nothing better than a 2 strokes performance as well........

personally, 4s all the way now if you can though for general recreational boating
  

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Reply #6 - Feb 25th, 2017 at 7:46pm
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I just bought a new boat and the only thing against the modern 4 strokes would be servicing costs. Other than that the difference is relatively minor, but with the amount of trolling i do on the lakes the 4 stroke is a no brainer.
A kicker motor is an option but makes things more complex - i had one on my old boat and it worked well. No easy way to mount a kicker on my current rig.
  
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Reply #7 - Feb 26th, 2017 at 10:38pm
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had both would never go back to 2 stroke 4 all the way
  

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Reply #8 - Feb 27th, 2017 at 12:58pm
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wazza56 wrote on Feb 26th, 2017 at 10:38pm:
had both would never go back to 2 stroke 4 all the way


Big call Wazza

This new outboard is something special, a friend has  a 250hp  on his big Ally, performance and fuel economy is unreal, he say he  wont go back to  four strokes.

Worth having a read, just on the cleanest technology alone, never mind the best economy and lowest emissions of any other combustion outboard ever!.
http://www.chooseyouretec.com/en-us/

Even the Aussies love them
We are seriously looking hard at a 150hp E-Tec G2.
http://www.boatsales.com.au/editorial/engine-reviews/2016/fishing/evinrude-e-tec...


  
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Reply #9 - Feb 28th, 2017 at 10:32am
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Speaking of 2 strokes, I have a mercury 60Hp on my boat and it has just started using quite a bit less petrol. The motor would have maybe 50hrs on it so would you expect it to start using less gas once it is run in ?. My last 2 trips it would have used almost 1/3 less gas in similar conditions to before. I was very surprised at how much petrol was left in the tanks compared to "normal"
  
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Reply #10 - Feb 28th, 2017 at 5:03pm
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ICEMAN wrote on Feb 27th, 2017 at 12:58pm:
wazza56 wrote on Feb 26th, 2017 at 10:38pm:
had both would never go back to 2 stroke 4 all the way


Big call Wazza

This new outboard is something special, a friend has  a 250hp  on his big Ally, performance and fuel economy is unreal, he say he  wont go back to  four strokes.

Worth having a read, just on the cleanest technology alone, never mind the best economy and lowest emissions of any other combustion outboard ever!.
http://www.chooseyouretec.com/en-us/

Even the Aussies love them
We are seriously looking hard at a 150hp E-Tec G2.
http://www.boatsales.com.au/editorial/engine-reviews/2016/fishing/evinrude-e-tec...




EMMs ( engine black box or computer ) and crank sensors to Etecs are what oil seals are to old Bonneville Triumphs, you always take a spare....

seriously though mate have a good read over at E nation - theres 16 pages of jibberish to filter through. More recent years are obviously later in the thread

I know they went through quite a few issues but heard the latest motors are getting sorted and better reviews.
http://community.evinrude.com/t5/Owner-s-Zone/MORE-E-TEC-ENGINE-PROBLEMS/td-p/12...
  

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Reply #11 - Feb 28th, 2017 at 5:12pm
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also search at thehulltruth.com - completely unbiased real world user feedback without manufacturers spin. Theres also a few shoot outs/comparisons.

Compare your warrantys, local brands service centre reputations, and the fine print too....please
  

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Reply #12 - Feb 28th, 2017 at 7:05pm
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would have to wait for my 4 stroke to wear out first  Grin not many commercial boats here using 2 strokes mainly large mercs
  

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Reply #13 - Feb 28th, 2017 at 8:59pm
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If you're doing the hours I think 4 stroke wins hands down. If you're just doing 50-75 hrs a year, as many are, consider the difference in price and servicing. it might be that the $k price difference is all the fuel and servicing for a few years.
  

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boowacker wrote on Feb 28th, 2017 at 8:59pm:
If you're doing the hours I think 4 stroke wins hands down. If you're just doing 50-75 hrs a year, as many are, consider the difference in price and servicing. it might be that the $k price difference is all the fuel and servicing for a few years.


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