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Feb 8th, 2017 at 9:41pm
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Just need opinions on what to do for bait and burley on multi day trips when cold storage is a problem. Been doing a few longer trips in the trailer sailor, including 9 days up at great barrier and have limited space for a decent chilly bin. We have been using Nuclear chicken soft baits in the recharge pack plus dry burley without too much joy. Is the salted long life bait any good?
  

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Reply #1 - Feb 9th, 2017 at 9:51pm
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I used to use salted bonito from Penguin or Salty Dog. Then I started catching and salting my own (actually skipjack). One good thing about that was that sometimes I caught little Albacore - yum!
Another good thing was that salted bonito (skipjack)  seems to be bloody good bait.
  
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Reply #2 - Feb 12th, 2017 at 5:26pm
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What about getting up early or evening before and catch fresh bait? Smiley
  
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Reply #3 - Feb 14th, 2017 at 12:33pm
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There is an outfit doing dehy squid now. Im not too sure how it goes but someone here has surely used it.
  

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Reply #4 - Feb 16th, 2017 at 8:12am
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luvinit wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 5:26pm:
What about getting up early or evening before and catch fresh bait? Smiley


what he said
  

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Reply #5 - Feb 21st, 2017 at 9:33am
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softbaits fished properly are very effective don't use anything else myself best fished with the help of a fish finder , just towed at low speed you should be able to get a kahawai for bait . Could also take a sabiki fly rig or salt your own bait very simple to do . Softbaits are best fished drifting not at anchor
  
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Reply #6 - Feb 21st, 2017 at 2:09pm
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I would just take a sabiki rig ( with either #6 or #8 hooks ) and maybe bait the hooks with a bit of bread or something and give that a go. Long life bait is never as good as fresh.
Take a small lure and troll it as you go and you might pick up a kahawai to use as well Smiley
  
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Reply #7 - Feb 21st, 2017 at 9:37pm
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Any Kahawai I catch gets eaten!
  
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Reply #8 - Feb 21st, 2017 at 10:31pm
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I have fished out of yachts for 50 yrs on longer trips etc, I personally use allot of softbaits  now but that is only really over the last 7 yrs. Other things I have tried and found some success at.

1 Ox liver, precut it take frozen keep in the bottom of chillybin lasts 4 or 5 days still works when green (stinky, doen'tgo soft) very effective on snapper less so on other species in the later stages. Be very careful with dogs around, a sick dog on a small yacht is not fun. Also use really good plastic bags drips stink. Salted Ox liver is good for about a week goes a bit tough after that.

2) Saltedbait bought or home made, works well but not if it gets rancid which allot of bought stuff seems to be however home made is great for a month or two I used to keep Icecream containers of salt use frozen bait first day then left overs go into salt for there after. We salted  pilchards when they were cheap and found that recycling the salt gave even average bait fish that extra pilchard factor, good bait tougher than normal though not as good as fresh.

3) Caught bait, subiki's cast net etc, best done in the evening after dinner at the anchorage hang a light over the side to bring them in then go for it with subiki's easy to catch enough for the day and a favourite part of the trip for many people (I take allot of newbies out)small hooks and a scrap of bait works well too. In summer bait will be generally a little soft by late the next day so keep cool as you can, I sometimes gut and or fillet a few for later and treat them extra well for an evening fish if living completely without ice (common on longer trips). Advantage is in the morning you get up early get to the fishing area and get straight into it with fresh good bait like Yellow tail, small Kahawai, piper, sprats etc. Probably best bait if combined with salting in the hot weather.

Subiki during day is sometimes good for picking up yellow tail etc though I find it difficult some years as the small snapper smash them particularly if baited.

4) My current favourite is softbaits and various slow jigs you can fit a years bait in the kitchen drawer it never goes off and doesn't stink the place out after a few days. It is also far more effective if you know how. Yachts drift 90degrees to the wind very very well and slowly without a drogue. Catch's are its very equipment sensitive so you may need to reinvest in new rod reel line etc as well as learn some new techniques. This year our cruise was 200+ miles of sailing around corromandel Mercury,cuvier and great Barrier Islands we caught heaps of snapper Kingies gurnard Porae trevally all on lures of one sort or another it was a hard year though as all the fish were from deep water. However the deep water suits lure fishing and drifting helps as I hate getting that anchor up out of deep water even with an electric winch.

I you want to find out more then let me know while I am very busy lately so may take a while I love taking people out and showing them how. Smiley

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Re: Long life bait
Reply #9 - Feb 28th, 2017 at 8:18pm
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Thanks Beaker. Very informative! Do you recharge your soft baits? and use dry burley?
  

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