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Wasps killing birds
Dec 18th, 2015 at 4:04am
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I have had two emails  in regards to my press release about the wasps menace. They talked about wasps killing fledgling birds. One from a game bird breeder and one from a concerned tramper who watched a number of wasps (through his binos) attacking the eyes of a baby bird in a nest and killing it and then carting the flesh off.
Has anyone else seen this or have any photos of it.... or something like....
  
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Reply #1 - Dec 23rd, 2015 at 2:17am
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Seen them on a crippled waxeye which they demolished. You know what they do to a carcass hung up in the bush. Seem to become demonised when they are eating meat.
  
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Thanks for that...
  
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Reply #3 - Dec 31st, 2015 at 12:23am
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Good news about Vespex becoming widely available now to individuals who complete their online test
  
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trippin ova wrote on Dec 31st, 2015 at 12:23am:
Good news about Vespex becoming widely available now to individuals who complete their online test

MMM..Individuals  that have to pay to do it and then buy the stuff...cant see the average joe blog that could kill thousands of wasps doing that thou unless its free
  
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Im thinking the forum could start a campaign to supply hunters with a few baits to be laid during the roar... we cant wait for DOC...
  
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Reply #6 - Feb 8th, 2016 at 2:12am
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found/walked past half dozen nests yesterday in beech forest,wouldv'e been easy to drop a prepared bait into mouth of nest on way past...the hum of wings just on daylight was unreal and it was a relief to get higher up in bush past where they are thickest.
  
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Reply #7 - Feb 9th, 2016 at 5:59am
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yeah birds but what about geckos? wetas? bats? , um
  
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Alan wrote on Jan 11th, 2016 at 12:21am:
Im thinking the forum could start a campaign to supply hunters with a few baits to be laid during the roar... we cant wait for DOC...


Great idea, i be keen. Thousands of wasps around here, was thinking i do the test, if DOC come up with some bait and i happierly do it around here
  
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Reply #9 - Mar 10th, 2016 at 6:24pm
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good luck,
  
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Reply #10 - Mar 20th, 2016 at 12:19am
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"Something" has caused a massive imbalance in the ecosystem to create this problem.
  
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Reply #11 - Mar 20th, 2016 at 3:28am
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The wasp numbers in Lewis Pass were really few when I was there recently, I was pleasantly surprised. Not sure if the cold has knocked them back already?
  
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Reply #12 - Apr 5th, 2016 at 8:18am
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anyone got the skinny on the possum trapper who got hit really badly and was saved by guys nearby with Adrenalin??????
  
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Re: Wasps killing birds
Reply #13 - Oct 13th, 2016 at 4:34am
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Everything in Nature has a purpose. Wasps, bees and ants produce forms of formic acid, as does stinging nettle.( ever noticed that stinging nettle feels the same as a wasp or bee sting, well it's the same chemical). All life needs formic acid and all things that take have to give. So while it seems wasps do a lot of taking, they actually give back an essential element to all life.
Why are wasps abundant in the back country?
As far as I know the only source of formic acid in native flora and fauna is the nettle which may not be a very efficient way of dispensing it.( Romans grew stinging nettle to alleviate muscle pain after long marches, try it some time).. Honey bees cannot survive in the high country because the summer's are too short and nectar sources limited. They have to store a lot of honey to survive the winters.Wasps on the other hand die off over winter so don't have the food storage problem. In Autumn wasp nests produce queens that hibernate over the winter months and start a new nest in spring.
Scientists in NZ are working on all sorts of nasty things to get rid of wasps, but they don't understand the role that wasps have. More poisons, more genetic engineering.
Another aspect of wasps is that they have the potential to control wood boring insect outbreaks. These insects sometimes get to high numbers that cause tree mortality. With wasps needing protein for larvae( adult wasps are actually vegetarians), they could act as a limiting factor by harvesting the beetles at certain critical times.
Rather than seeing wasps as a nuisance, I see them as guardians of the forest. Change the way you look at things, and the things you look at change.
  
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Re: Wasps killing birds
Reply #14 - Oct 14th, 2016 at 6:56pm
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wahooman wrote on Oct 13th, 2016 at 4:34am:
Everything in Nature has a purpose. Wasps, bees and ants produce forms of formic acid, as does stinging nettle.( ever noticed that stinging nettle feels the same as a wasp or bee sting, well it's the same chemical). All life needs formic acid and all things that take have to give. So while it seems wasps do a lot of taking, they actually give back an essential element to all life.
Why are wasps abundant in the back country?
As far as I know the only source of formic acid in native flora and fauna is the nettle which may not be a very efficient way of dispensing it.( Romans grew stinging nettle to alleviate muscle pain after long marches, try it some time).. Honey bees cannot survive in the high country because the summer's are too short and nectar sources limited. They have to store a lot of honey to survive the winters.Wasps on the other hand die off over winter so don't have the food storage problem. In Autumn wasp nests produce queens that hibernate over the winter months and start a new nest in spring.
Scientists in NZ are working on all sorts of nasty things to get rid of wasps, but they don't understand the role that wasps have. More poisons, more genetic engineering.
Another aspect of wasps is that they have the potential to control wood boring insect outbreaks. These insects sometimes get to high numbers that cause tree mortality. With wasps needing protein for larvae( adult wasps are actually vegetarians), they could act as a limiting factor by harvesting the beetles at certain critical times.
Rather than seeing wasps as a nuisance, I see them as guardians of the forest. Change the way you look at things, and the things you look at change.



Those bastards that chased me into the river trying to devour the meat that I was trying to salvage off a dead Red were the weirdest phucking vegetarians I have ever seen.
  
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