Hell will freeze over.

Its been a while since we delved into this topic and I've spent quite a while assessing what has been written.  This thread has been quite enlightening and it certainly appears we have a serious problem charting a path forward that people would support and finance as well as being effective in the right places.

My summarising of views goes a bit like this:

Most see the need for an advocacy organisation to preserve and enhance hunter access to and management of game animals as a resource.

Acceptance of a charge for permits/hunting rights is mixed and which organisation would be advantaged by the funds is a concern to some.

Neither NZDA or GAC are the right organisation to carry out the role.

There is support for an alternative organisation that would be focused solely on hunters rights although many question the need for another organisation when NZDA, GAC and COLFO already exist.

Hopefully I have that mostly right.  If not I'd love to hear others assessments.
Moving along, as I don't think there is any time to waste:

Our new organisation is:
- Independent of statutory restriction and existing NGO's policies.
- Funded purely from voluntary contributions from the public and negotiated percentage contributions from hunting equipment sales.
- It provides oversight of government agencies, their actions and policies as they impact hunting through detailed factual analysis.
- It advocates and takes action, both practical and legal, to protect existing populations of game animals and enhance hunters access to those animals for harvest.
- It manages its financial performance to ensure it can become and remain perpetually self funding.

What did I ommit?
Bushwanderer suggested the structure of Legasea as a model and I think that has great merit.  You can read a bit about that here.
http://www.legasea.co.nz/detail.php

Much of what they highlight is what we will be faced with as the population increases.  Putting aside any safety issues without game our sport is finished.  GAC has an advisory role to the conservation minister and further roles that will not wield the weight we need in some areas.  Its not that GAC is a bad model it is just that it is severely constrained in any advocacy role through its statutory status by design.  Similarly F&G is constrained and there is need to address their ability to undertake work to protect rights and access.  An organisation that can work right across the spectrum would be a formidable force in addressing the inequity our sport/s have been subject to.

so we have the nzda , colfo, game council ---and now we need another organization for hunter rights.     i am sure if you go back and look at the disscusion about the animal game council when being proposed to be set up -it alledgedly was going to deal with all these issues . as impartial and represented by hunters across the board from a cross section of all hunters.    what have we heard from the game council ----nothing ?                                                                                 closed group of yes men/woman appointed by the government minister ---my opinion                                       interesting to note that i did put my name forward , not accepted , but in my letter of reply from the minister,i was asked to support the council members nominated by the minister , well i have sat back watching and waiting for some actions from them ---nothing has happened that i can see ?  , delaying tactics from the government ? the minister?i went to a couple of the meetings when this was mooted, some of the present appointed council members were quite vocal on where this council would take hunters forward, they get appointed ---nothing eventuating.               or have i got it wrong                                                                                                                t

[quote author=19242C2E393865797C7B4B0 link=1434931063/202#202 date=1455520457]lets start another group.................
cat of nine lives has already stated that our hobbies participants are far to fragmented and un-unified in our views - maybe due to the pig headed nature of the type of blokes that love the outdoors.

another org achieves nothing - supporting change and unification of current orgs is a much smarter alternative............. but hey what do i know