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The thinking hill.
Mar 26th, 2015 at 4:52am
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Hills are great things. They provide perfect places to sit and think. They also seem to help with the clarity of thought. Another thing that helps the process is a good dog. Sitting on a hill with a dog is the best way to get good thoughts. Dogs think well on hills too, so it pays to listen to their opinions while your at it.


Max and me on the thinking hill

My favorite hill is a place I do much thinking. You can sit there in the evening with your dog and watch pigs and deer and sunsets. But not many ducks unless they fly past on their way to wherever they do their  sitting and thinking for the evening.
At the bottom of this hill is a nice little valley, it has a small stream that winds its way through it and a whole heap of swamps and seeps feeding the stream from its sides. Its at the head of the valley, and away from the valley floor its quite steep. While I always enjoy sitting there, sometimes I worry about that valley. In winter it pugs and turns to mud, the swamps are degraded and semi drained. I know why the ducks don't stop here to think.
One day Im sitting on my hill, and I say out loud to Max, my dog, that I need to do something with this valley.
Shanks. Says Max. You need to fence it off and build a pond.
Jeez! says I. You don't half think big Max .
Well, Im a big dog, and I get sick of retrieving those rivers with their blackberry and sticks and fast currents.
What do we need? I ask Max
We need islands, he says
And shallow water, I say.
Somewhere for the ducks to breed, says Max.
And some predator control I add, so they are safe.
They wont be safe from me, say Max.
You're too slow to catch them I tell him.
I would if you could hit them, he retorts.

Anyway I look at the valley and know what needs to be done, but I tell Max Im not sure if I can do it on my own. Its a big, expensive project.
Don't do it on your own he tells me, share the burden, but be prepared to give something in return.
I know he's right. Dogs are good like that.
I already have enough hunting, Im just wanting somewhere for the ducks to be able to sit and think. But there are others who don't have the same advantage as I do, so I decide to approach a couple of people I have met through this site and put together a proposal. They help me and in return they get to build a hunting spot. Max reckons they are good choices because their butts smell good and they can hit the ducks for him to catch.

Once I leave the thinking hill I start walking the valley floor, planing and pacing and counting while Max chases Hares and sniffs things and eats cow shit. I like him more when he's sitting on the hill.
The two courageous souls I approach with the idea are keen.
I need some knowledge, so Forum member Ducknut who has built plenty of wetlands comes out one day and looks over the area and tells me what I need and gives me some water flow ideas. And that's where its currently at. My plan is to have it built over the next summer. I have some hoops to jump through yet. The first will be resource consent, the second will be finding out if I can afford the build. At this stage I think so. Im awaiting a contractor to come quote as I write. As we all go along this road I intend to keep you all informed and show what we do. Im determined to do something, so I have other options up my sleeve if RC or cost make this prohibitive.


Sunset over the valley from the thinking hill
  
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Reply #1 - Mar 26th, 2015 at 5:03am
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Well done and as much as I agree with Max, he's a bit of a smart arse isn't he?
  
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Reply #2 - Mar 26th, 2015 at 5:10am
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Oh don't get me started. Often he'll wander over to a patch of scrub and tell me theres a bird in there. Ill say don't be stupid, come here.He'll then go flush a bird and look at me and say, told you so with a cheeky grin on his face.
  
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Reply #3 - Mar 26th, 2015 at 5:11am
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Look forward to the updates
  
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Reply #4 - Mar 26th, 2015 at 5:13am
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workingman wrote on Mar 26th, 2015 at 5:11am:
Look forward to the updates


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Reply #5 - Mar 26th, 2015 at 5:16am
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This will be a good thing to keep an eye on, looking forward to it!

One problem I have s that my dog won't talk to me Cry
  
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Reply #6 - Mar 26th, 2015 at 5:22am
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Have spent many hours doing the same with my dog, is amazing the wisdom we find in our selves that comes from a dogs eye or wag of a tale.
ps, what a bloody great project Shanks if you think I could help in any way give me a yell
  

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Reply #7 - Mar 26th, 2015 at 5:24am
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Take your dog up a hill Merritt. Then just sit and listen.

Im sure There will be plenty of tree planting Ill need a hand with Don.
  
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Reply #8 - Mar 26th, 2015 at 5:25am
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That will be a pretty grand scale project shanks.  You're a better man than me.  If I had deer on my place the ducks could get buggered and I would be playing around with them instead Grin

Bit beyond anything I have done yet but our place doesn't lend to the same scale nor does my budget at the moment.  But I promise I will put something up that might give you a few ideas....after the roar but Grin  You're probably better getting advice from the dog than me anyway they are usually smarter than people.

I would say though we are gradually taking out those wet puggy shitty areas and when it comes down to it is surprising how little we miss them.  Over the winter they are just a mess and probably the source of 80% of sediment and nutrient runoff and in summer they either don't grow much from being hammered during winter or are liver fluke infested shit holes anyway.  We don't usually need more grass in summer anyhow.  And its bloody good not having to drag wet muddy calves out of them while mums dancing around deciding whether to kill you or not Lips Sealed 

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Buller, you have hit it on the head. So many reasons to do this that make sense. these are the worrys I have carried for some time. So much better to turn it into something beautiful and positive.
  
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You have a wise dog shanks.

Looking forward to following progress.


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Jeez Saltro, dont say that to loud. His head is big enough as it is.
  
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Grin
  

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Reply #13 - Mar 26th, 2015 at 6:26am
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I think someone spiked your water tank shanks. You are giving max far to much credit.  Grin
  
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Reply #14 - Mar 26th, 2015 at 6:36am
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Many a great scheme was hatched when sitting and thinking this one looks like it will be a cracker. Thanks for posting a GOOD report  hope Max will help with the digging.
  
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Reply #15 - Mar 26th, 2015 at 6:55am
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gooseman wrote on Mar 26th, 2015 at 6:36am:
Many a great scheme was hatched when sitting and thinking this one looks like it will be a cracker. Thanks for posting a GOOD report  hope Max will help with the digging.


Max has the site foreman job already locked in, sorry no digging for him, he has his spot on the hill barking orders.
Jokes aside great plan you have there Shanks good luck with everything.
  
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Miggie, hes just informed me he needs a high vis vest and hard hat. Thanks.


So heres a rough idea of what I hope to achieve, subject to survey.



there are still some areas on the true left that will also be fenced out, and another sediment pond placed on the left as well that I havn't marked out as they will most likely be third year projects as i redefine the paddocks and build new accessways as the main farm track cuts right though the valley floor right now.
  
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Reply #17 - Mar 26th, 2015 at 7:22pm
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May the dreams turn to reality Shanks.
  
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im glad to know im not the only one who has great discussions with dogs Smiley
great thinking spot, everyone should have a thinking spot imo.
  
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Reply #19 - Mar 26th, 2015 at 10:17pm
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This is an awesome thread. A fantastic project and enjoyable story to go with it.
  
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QE2 be any help in this Shanks? Have had a good run with them (and F&G) on wetland creation in the past
  

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I will definitely be approaching the gamebird habitat trust. What sort of help do QE2 provide? I thought they were mostly about conserving existing resources, not creating new?
  
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Brilliant project. Would love to see the progression of it.
  

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I will definitely be approaching the gamebird habitat trust. What sort of help do QE2 provide? I thought they were mostly about conserving existing resources, not creating new?


Restoration is part their business too - http://www.openspace.org.nz/includes/download.aspx?ID=127452

Don't know in your case but presume it would have been swampy/boggy before farm development 1st began?

In the case I know of, they paid for a chunk of the boundary fencing, which was a huge help, and have helped with advice on planting and management. I know they are getting more popular so funding will be getting tighter

Personally I really endorse QE2 - the covenant is arguably giving up some property rights but it is protection irrespective of owner, they are a good help, and its a good news story for farming.
  

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Cheers, Some useful info there.
  
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CIB wrote on Mar 26th, 2015 at 10:17pm:
This is an awesome thread. A fantastic project and enjoyable story to go with it.


What that man said sums it up for me. Cool
  
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That thinking hill is a magnificent thinking hill. I've even thunk there myself a time or 3.

Good luck with the wetland  Cool
  

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As I think my way through this project, i realise that there is much I can do now that will save time next year. If I put up a new dam wall across this stream, I need it protected from the start. The first new fenceline is about 450 meters in length. Im better off having that completed before this winter sets in so Im not stressing myself next summer. The last week or so has seen me layout and dig in the 12 strainers and run the two guide wires ready for digging in the posts.



Because this is an organic farm, Im not allowed to use treated timber posts, so the whole thing will be done using concrete. With a strainer weighing in excess of 150kg, it teaches you to get the hole pretty well correct first time.
Also the soil here is very thin and gives way to rock very quickly, so I made a decision not to run the bulldozer over the fenceline to cut it straight. Preferring to put in a few more posts and foots rather than have to chip through rock with a crowbar. So far the plan has worked and Ive only needed the bar a few times. It also puts me a day or two ahead and saves me moving a couple of hundred cubes of soil.

I have put a gateway two thirds of the way along the line to allow me to access the wetland from the top side. Im going to start with the long side of this fence first, and have to lay out 70 posts. Then will start the other which will need a further 40.

I have a contracter coming to quote this week, and also will see if there is any pre build work he can do in the next few months that will cut down on time next year as well. Things like access ways and track culverts to make our movements easier over next summer.
  
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Very impressive Plans Shanks. Hope it all comes together.
  
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Reply #31 - Apr 9th, 2015 at 5:13am
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I read the opening statement, and wept, tears ran down my cheeks as I respond to the beauty of a hill, a man and a dog.
  
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Reply #32 - Apr 9th, 2015 at 6:41am
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Sweep and I have spent many a day sitting on hills not far from you bro where the lakes are already in place, the most I ever got from my dog was to shoot them pigs and deer boss  Lips Sealed
I need to go home more.
  

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Thanks guys. Always nice to know the tone of an idea comes through to others when put in writing.
  
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Theres been a bit of progress with this over the last week. The first fenceline has all its posts in the ground and ready for wires. Im going to leave it like that for now though as I can wire it up once the bad weather starts. Im currently laying out the next line on the far side of the river and will start on that as I get time though the hunting season will slow that somewhat. i had to source more croncrete posts, as by the end of this I will have used 300+, so this week i found and stacked 500, or in other words a full truck and trailer load through trademe and brought them back to the farm.



All ready to go.

I also had the first company come and quote on the earthworks needed to complete the project. It was a third more than I was hoping for which will cause me  to have to rethink how I go about it and my timeline for completion. it will also make external funding more important. I will wait on second company to quote though before I panic too much. Grin
In the end though its a project i beleive in, so i will find a way to do it. My biggest concern is the unknowns like the depth of key needed that can blow out costs, so Im going to plan to do an exploratory dig on the site this year to find where the solid base lies.
  
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I have just finished putting together my application for funding from the Game bird habitat trust.





Just have to sit back and hope now. It was actually an enjoyable process putting together the information required and not to arduous.
Monday morning first thing I will have it in the post to be there by the end of the month deadline.
  
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awesome project mate. will follow this keenly.
up here our regional council has an "environment fund".
people can apply to it annually for help with all sorts of projects.
they will up to 50% of a project but your 50% can be made of ongoing maintenance of fences etc, planting, spraying, predator control etc etc.
i got help from the fund with fencing off all my native bush and will apply again with a couple of small wetland/dam projects on my place i want to do for my local brown teal.
might be worth seeing if theres a similar thing in your area.
  
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Reply #37 - Jun 20th, 2015 at 8:48pm
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Looks like you have a good proposal put together Shanks ..... hope it gets support!
Shame you don't have a reparation scheme up there like we have down here where the money is put into private wetland creation  Sad
  

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Are you talking reparation, or mitigation? Reparation is on our radar, as it is with most councils right now. But in all honesty the amount of offenses detected and suitable will probably mean its a token gesture that saves money rather than contribute large scale to projects.

Mitigation is more useful, but its another story.
  
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chris wrote on Jun 20th, 2015 at 8:35pm:
awesome project mate. will follow this keenly.
up here our regional council has an "environment fund".
people can apply to it annually for help with all sorts of projects.
they will up to 50% of a project but your 50% can be made of ongoing maintenance of fences etc, planting, spraying, predator control etc etc.
i got help from the fund with fencing off all my native bush and will apply again with a couple of small wetland/dam projects on my place i want to do for my local brown teal.
might be worth seeing if theres a similar thing in your area.


Yeah Chris I have used it on our place a bit as well.  New funding round has just opened for this year so now is the hour if you want more as it is getting very popular.

Interested to follow your project Shanks. I have been beetling away for the last few weeks here doing various bits and pieces as well.
  

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I hope you share them with us BE, your report last time gave me some great ideas.
  
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Nothing particularly new really Shanks just more planting out little ponds around wet areas. I did finally surrender to convention and plant a few timber belts and a couple of little wood lots in pines  Lips Sealed  Partly because they might be worth something one day and partly because a 30 cent pine tree is cheaper than a native.  I will be coppicing poplars shortly in my nursery and will plant 4 or 500 along some wet fencelines and in ponds and stuff but just more of what I showed before.
  

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Theres actually not much wrong with a bit of pine I reckon. Its great shelter when younger and nothing wrong with earning income from your tree planting. Some of the higher dry ground On this project I intend to plant in pine, Jap ceder or Mac as a future income source for the replacement of the fencing. They may also block the wind sheltering the wetland somewhat.
  
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one property i hunt has a good stand of what im told is "lusatanaka" (sp?) a type of mac?? grown for timber.
the pheasants love living in it!
  
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The project has slowed now as winter bites in and I find I don't have enough time in the day. I did manage to get another important aspect out of the way though which is a big relief.

On a dam like this you really need to key the way in to the surrounding material. For this you need to find a suitable hard base under the top soil, but not so hard that the key material will just sit on it and allow water to flow between the layers.
I needed to do some testing with a scale penetrometer. This is not something I have laying around as you can imagine. Also you can imagine my delight when a mate showed up to do some hunting, and I spied one in the back of his ute…… What are the odds!
End result after an hour and a bit of work by torch light was I now know I have to key down 2.4 meters from the highest point and 1.7 from the lowest. This is good news as its a risk starting a project like this without knowing. It has the potential to become a bottomless money pit if you cant find a suitable base to build on.
  
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Update time, and im pretty happy after the last few weeks. I have completed all the fencing with the exception of battening. I planned to complete the fence over 2 years, so Im well up.



A week or two ago A mate come out and give me a hand to stick in poplar poles at strategic points which is another big job done. I needed about 150 poles cut and put in.


It will be better to explain why Ive planted them this way once everything is finished.

And then in the last couple of days I have had my current crop of germans, and one Hawaiian out planting the trees I have been growing on on farm. Plus the same mate dropped off 70 salvaged flax plants which also went into a swamp today.









The valley is starting to change by the day. Its great!
  
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Reply #46 - Aug 17th, 2015 at 5:48am
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Great stuff Shanks, keep up the good work.
  
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Was really impressed last weekend when we went for a look around the other day. Got me quite excited thinking about what it will look like when it's done.
A hell of a lot of work gone into that fencing. (Incase you can't see it people, they are all concrete posts which are hand dug)

Ps, you will have a delivery soon.  Wink
  
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Reply #49 - Aug 17th, 2015 at 7:52pm
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Don't forget to apply to the NZ Game Bird Habitat Trust for funding,that's the sort of project that we all pay into with the Habitat Stamp on our licence to fund.Contact your local Fish and Game
  
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Yep. I submitted an application for funding to NZGBHT. The board came back with some extra questions a week or two ago, which is a good sign in my opinion. Means it didn't get declined on first inspection. Just have to wait until 27th of Aug when they make their decision's.
  
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Reply #51 - Aug 18th, 2015 at 10:50am
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Protecting and creating wetlands, I can't think of anything better to do. Only 10 percent of our original wetlands are left.

Well done Shanks.

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doing poplar poles is a bugger of a job.  Especially the bigger ones.  A mate of mine lets them get big enough to ram in with his tractor.  I have got a few big enough ones I will try after lunch today.

Project looks great Shanks-nothing like changing your landscape.  We missed out on cutting the trees down so putting them back is the only option left.   Wink
  

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I had some great news yesterday. My application for funding from the Game bird habitat trust was accepted! Im stoked.
  
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Nice to see the project coming together and starting to take shape Shanks.

Well done on getting the funding approved.

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Great news. Just so happens Alan Hammond posted some thoughts on pond design this week on our Facebook page.  Might be worth a read. 
  
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Yeah, Im following your page for inspiration. Cheers. One of the things Ive been experimenting with over the last year is taking shallow scrapes out of the sandy country close to the river where there is a seep of some sort. They dry up in summer and fill over winter. So far they are very very popular and successful with the ducks.
  
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Yeah, Im following your page for inspiration. Cheers. One of the things Ive been experimenting with over the last year is taking shallow scrapes out of the sandy country close to the river where there is a seep of some sort. They dry up in summer and fill over winter. So far they are very very popular and successful with the ducks.


I have done similar shanks in boggy areas where they are more meant to act as sediment traps but ducks use them to feed on as there is lots of overhanging carex and willow weed and breed on them also.  I saw ducklings on one today.
  

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Thats cool BE, mine are too new yet, they dont have the established cover for breeding, but the ducks are sure using them to feed. It will be a highlight for sure when I do see the first clutches.
  
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Yeah cover makes a big difference.  I don't see any mallard ducklings on mystock drinking ponds which have no cover-plenty of parries though.

It has been a revelation how many more ducklings are around on newly fenced or freshly created ponds once a bit of fringing cover appears or is planted.  Predator control and a bit of rough nesting cover around helps but we had that before and still not the ducklings produced.
  

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It has been a brilliant few days. First the funding, now some freebies.

There is I believe a lesson in this for landowners. If you share your place with others and are willing to provide for resources that they may value, then good things happen that can improve your farm.

So firstly I got a call to say there was 900 trees free and  waiting to be picked up from Auckland. I was up there like a rocket with the ute.



I had to double stack them, but I got the lot on.

Then when I got home I found a package sitting on my floor and a pile of eighty flax bushes sitting by my shed. Santa had been while I was away. Or at least an avid and generous forum reader anyway.



All up some 4000 dollars worth of donations to the project.... and beyond. I have so many trees now, that this week I am going to start new projects that were intended for next year.

As I said, a lesson. This kind of thing doesn't happen unless you give something in return, and what you give doesn't have to cost more than allowing people to use your land in a controlled manor.
  
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That's awesome news shanks...   Cool very cool.. I love ake akes and flaxs planted together... The colours look great.  Primo stuff on the traps as well. Good on those donators.
  

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900 trees, GN Traps and flax...holy smoke!
  
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Cranking along nicely,  an inspiration, well done all those involved.
  
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Since Shanks disappeared into the interweb wilderness he has passed on the updating of the thread to me.

Nearly a year after the initial post we have reached a big day tomorrow.

The resource consent is being lodged.



  
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.Resource consents all ready to be lodged tomorrow.
50 pages of beuracracy and an initial thousand dollar downpayment to do something positive for the environment. Its a sucky system! but one I must work through. I must say that if I didnt have experienced help with this, it would not have got done.
  
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mick hunter wrote on Jan 27th, 2016 at 8:55am:
.Resource consents all ready to be lodged tomorrow.
50 pages of beuracracy and an initial thousand dollar downpayment to do something positive for the environment. Its a sucky system! but one I must work through. I must say that if I didnt have experienced help with this, it would not have got done.


What would you rather have? A system where John Keys mates can do what ever they want in and around water ways?

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Well wish Shanks well for us all will you mick hunter.
Really hope it all comes out of the system with GRANTED on it
  
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What would you rather have?
I would rather have a system that did not include a bunch of wankers in an office ( who add nothing) stuffing up a good intention. Roll Eyes
JK's mates could not do worse than what we have now, in fact Mickey Mouse and Goofy would be no worse. Angry
The whole consent system stuffs up Environment enhancement. Angry
  

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Almost done. Dam built. Water flowed out the spillway this afternoon. Tomorrow she will be complete.

  
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She's a monster mick.... Looking bloody awesome.
  

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Done apart from growing some grass.

  
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That's a credit to Shanks perseverance and foresight to turn that area into something that looks mint.
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Will try and get some photos next weekend.
Couple of weeks ago it looked a bit different to the last pic as the summer grass inside clearly showing the size of the project.
Good numbers of duck have taken up residence. Pigs are bit of a problem, rooting up the place.
Picked up another 1000 mostly Carex grasses, a few cabbage trees, Manuka and ake ake's last weekend. They are not all destined for the wetland but will get spread around a bit.
  
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Had a gawk the other day, it had plenty ducks in residence.  Cool I didn't go too close as there may have been ducklings there too.
  
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