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Utilising a fallen hare
Aug 21st, 2014 at 9:25pm
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Gents, I'm getting back into tying after a break of a few years and interested to know how to best utilise the fur from the many hares that are infesting my place here in Canty  Shocked

Cleary, there's different coloured fur on different parts of the animal such as white on the tummy, red on the shoulder and the brown/tips along the back. So, for the usual  hare & copper do you only use the black and brown tips?

Not sure if I'm making myself clear  Roll Eyes but someone may have some advice on what parts of the beast I can use for different flies ! Cheers
  
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Re: Utilising a fallen hare
Reply #1 - Aug 24th, 2014 at 2:46am
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Hi Tom,

I'm certainly no expert but i'd imagine you'd want to use the softer fur (belly and ears) as dubbing for bodies and the really coarse fine hairs (along the back) as tailing fibres.. I wouldn't be too fussy if I were you - if it looks good I'm sure it'll work well. Oh and you might want to possibly freeze the skin before storing it with all you're other material in case it's infested with bugs or something

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Reply #2 - Aug 24th, 2014 at 3:41am
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You'll want the face, most of the good hair is there.
  

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Reply #3 - Aug 25th, 2014 at 9:01pm
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Commerically its sold as a "mask",    any tips on how to pres erve one?
  
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Re: Utilising a fallen hare
Reply #4 - Aug 26th, 2014 at 10:16am
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not sure about for hares but with the rabbits I shoot to tie with I just peg the skin out to dry and that's all they need. not sure about the hare as it may be a little thicker skinned.
don't be fussy about what part you use. its just about what works.  all my "hare and coppers" are tied with rabbit but the trout don't mind
  
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Re: Utilising a fallen hare
Reply #5 - Aug 26th, 2014 at 9:13pm
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The hair on a hare is thicker & fuller than  rabbit hair but the skin on a rabbit buck is quite abit thicker than that of a hare .
  
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Re: Utilising a fallen hare
Reply #6 - Aug 27th, 2014 at 7:08am
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I had the same question a few years back.
The boys above are dead right about the mask and ears, but that can be a pain to tan on your own.
Take the main body skin of and remove as much of the flesh as you can.  Use 1lkg bag of no iodine slat and leave it to dry.
The skin will go quite stiff and crispy but makes it easy to harvest from.
Those long hairs with the brown tips are the best, but you need to get the "fluff" out from between them when you grab a handful.  just roll them around your cotton and when you make a few turns you get plenty of "legs" sticking out from the fly body/abdomen.
Easier still you just buy a bag of it Grin
but the satisfaction of tying using naturally harvested materials is pretty cool. Wink
  

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Reply #7 - Aug 27th, 2014 at 7:10am
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Sorry, Salt.
spread it nice and even and try to pin the skin out on a flat board...
  

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Re: Utilising a fallen hare
Reply #8 - Aug 28th, 2014 at 1:11am
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Holly sh_t

I remove from the skin and put into plastic bag, saves smell.  I then take the fur and depending on the length I will cut into smaller pieces and then I generally blend with some glister (sparkle and generally dark green) using an old coffee grinder.  Sometimes I will blend it with other synthetic materials like antron.
  
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Reply #9 - Aug 29th, 2014 at 8:00am
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tabby persian cat or wallaby works great too.after awhile the cat used to take off when she saw me coming with the sissors Angry
  
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Reply #10 - Sep 4th, 2014 at 11:23pm
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Back in the early days I used to carry ziplock bags and scissors in the car glovebox I would stop to check any roadkill for usable fur. Hares rabbits pukeko's pheasants ducks possums etc etc all contributed over the years. But yes the cats were chosen for hair colour Tabbies and tortoiseshell being the more useful though ginger is good too. Dog fur makes great nymph tails Smiley
  
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Beaker wrote on Sep 4th, 2014 at 11:23pm:
Back in the early days I used to carry ziplock bags and scissors in the car glovebox I would stop to check any roadkill for usable fur. Hares rabbits pukeko's pheasants ducks possums etc etc all contributed over the years. But yes the cats were chosen for hair colour Tabbies and tortoiseshell being the more useful though ginger is good too. Dog fur makes great nymph tails Smiley


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Reply #12 - Sep 7th, 2014 at 9:29pm
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Yeah I remember back in the day thinking that my folks' Golden Lab would be an ideal substitute for deer hair  Roll Eyes  Didn't work.
  
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Reply #13 - Sep 11th, 2014 at 9:13pm
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Tommo mk2 wrote on Sep 7th, 2014 at 9:29pm:
Yeah I remember back in the day thinking that my folks' Golden Lab would be an ideal substitute for deer hair  Roll Eyes  Didn't work.
 


Deer hair is hollow so when you tighten down the thread it bunches up very nicely also floats to a certain extent which makes it great for dries. Dog hair doesn't float and has a dense colour so good for nymph tails as shows up well doesn't get soft when wet and doesn't affect floatation.
  
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Re: Utilising a fallen hare
Reply #14 - Sep 13th, 2014 at 10:04am
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Polar bears also have hollow hairs.

Mind you, you'd need to be a wee bit desperate Wink
  

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