CQ, That is a good observation. The same happens here while trapping weasels and mink. A set that has caught them, will continue to. With mink once I catch a mink, I no longer re-bait it. They add the smell for the attraction for the next one. This happens even with lynx, year after year, there is a particular tree which always catches lynx. I made several sets within close distance, yet the old location seems to draw them.
I hope you guys don't mind me chiming in from over here. I certainly don't have any experience with your conditions or islands... Here is a link to a bunch of items used here. http://www.pcsoutdoors.com/weaseltrappinglure.aspx
yep, thats often the way hoon. i find once a trap has mustelid smell it catches much better. bon, when ever i get a fresh stoat i squeeze his belly till he pisses. i rub his arse, piss, etc all round the inside of the stoat box. often the next catch is a stoat. im trying mutton fat on the inside of the box at the mo. strong smell, waterproof and fat is always sought after. so far its just made me hungry.
CQ, That is a good observation. The same happens here while trapping weasels and mink. A set that has caught them, will continue to. With mink once I catch a mink, I no longer re-bait it. They add the smell for the attraction for the next one. This happens even with lynx, year after year, there is a particular tree which always catches lynx. I made several sets within close distance, yet the old location seems to draw them.
I hope you guys don't mind me chiming in from over here. I certainly don't have any experience with your conditions or islands... Here is a link to a bunch of items used here. http://www.pcsoutdoors.com/weaseltrappinglure.aspx
not at all! you fellas must be the world leaders at trapping over there. always great to see/hear new ideas etc. some interesting lures etc. pretty sure we would have problems importing it with gland product etc.
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A while back I had a couple of trap placements that simply were never as effective as the other traps in the line, no matter what I did to adjust the location or bait etc. So I physically swapped the traps and boxes for other ones in the line that had sucessfully caught weasels. Within 48 hours, one trap had its first kills, and within 72 hours, so had the second one.
I can only think that by using traps that had fresh scent on it, encouraged the weasels to come and have a closer look, when they would have just kept going by.
Does it help to do a bait drag to the trap or just leave it be?we are useing rabbit is there better bait?
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I was talking to Robin Thomas from the QE11 trust in the weekend who has incredible knowledge and experience in predator control. He gets very good results using bright orange ping pong balls brought from the wharehouse as bait in his traps.... not joking!
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yep, thats often the way hoon. i find once a trap has mustelid smell it catches much better. bon, when ever i get a fresh stoat i squeeze his belly till he pisses. i rub his arse, piss, etc all round the inside of the stoat box. often the next catch is a stoat. im trying mutton fat on the inside of the box at the mo. strong smell, waterproof and fat is always sought after. so far its just made me hungry.
Chris,if you have a hayshed, put new made boxes down there with some grain in and let the mice take over for a couple of weeks. Then put boxes out on the line baited for stoats.
great idea bon! would work for my close traps but most of mine are carried into the bush quite a way. will try it on my close ones though. ping pong balls ay paul, interesting.
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I had a talk to an old trapper this week who has used, with great success, eels. He said they drag an eel over the ground for 100m before putting some in the trap and any ferret cutting the scent is a goner
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Re: Stoat trapping seminar Reply #39 - Oct 7th, 2013 at 4:50pm
I was talking to Robin Thomas from the QE11 trust in the weekend who has incredible knowledge and experience in predator control. He gets very good results using bright orange ping pong balls brought from the wharehouse as bait in his traps.... not joking!
Paul is the colour material? Went into the Warehouse in Hastings yesterday but I misread your comment and was looking for red ones. Can you clarify whether the colour is the major factor. Always keen to try new tricks Thanks.
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Re: Stoat trapping seminar Reply #40 - Oct 7th, 2013 at 6:02pm
Paul is the colour material? Went into the Warehouse in Hastings yesterday but I misread your comment and was looking for red ones. Can you clarify whether the colour is the major factor. Always keen to try new tricks Thanks.
He was looking for other options than eggs that were expensive when doing extensive control so thought he would use artificial eggs dipped in a powdered egg solution. But the artificial eggs were also very expensive when you need a large number. so instead decided to try ping pong balls coated in powdered egg solution. The cheapest option was from the wharehouse with packs of a dozen that had six white ones an six flouro orange coloured ones. He initially only used the white ones which worked well and after a while he even stopped dipping them in egg solution with no loss of effectiveness! Since he had a heap of flouro ones he though he might a well give them a try and they worked even better!
Worth a try sako?
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Re: Stoat trapping seminar Reply #41 - Oct 7th, 2013 at 7:50pm
Thanks Paul. We go back to the block in November after docking and will try it out.At least our kuris dont have their fur untimely ripped just to entice those large Manapouri monsters.Still amazed about your success. Best.
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Re: Stoat trapping seminar Reply #42 - Oct 8th, 2013 at 3:47pm
I need some advice guys up at the office today had a bit of lunch and walked outside heard a screaming noise and looked up to see a mid-size rabbit about 10m away running fast and some other loopy looking bastard about 2m behind it when they saw me the rabbit came back towards me and the other one took off with Cruz hard on its heals Not sure which one was screaming but I presume it was the rabbit I didnt know what to do I had a sharp hoe in my hand so walked up to the rabbit but he took off and up a novaflow drain pipe Only the second one of those I have ever seen here I am highly offended I had set a cat trap on Sunday evening close to the shed had a pouch of cat tucker in it but nothing in the trap today Not sure what that animal was but about 300mm long, fawn and brown colour and quite skinny So I went back up the hill ripping weeds out round my native plants and old Cruz starts sniffing down a fresh hole I dug it out a bit so I could get my hand up to the end it produced four fresh rabbits about 150mm long so I have stuck one in the cat trap and three in the freezer Is this stoat/ferret?? likely to go into a cat trap or do I need some other type of trap where can I get them maybe I need a few I need help please got to get this bastard before these chick are on the ground
make a noise like a scared rabbit and make sure you got a gun in the hand,, ps,them wabbits is tasty oh yes that long skinny bastard was that way because he was too slow to catch a feed
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Re: Stoat trapping seminar Reply #44 - Nov 3rd, 2013 at 8:28am
Getting stoats regularly in the traps now and also some good sized rats
I didn't get to see the biggest rat but the old man said he thought he'd nabbed another ferret when he got the first glimpse of it from outside the trap box...