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MINI 30    
  17 (22.4%)
MINI 14    
  5 (6.6%)
CZ 527 .223    
  39 (51.3%)
CZ 527 7.62X39    
  15 (19.7%)




Total votes: 76
« Created by: Matt P.Nth on: Aug 18th, 2012 at 12:05pm »
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which would you prefer Ruger MINI's vs CZ 527's
Aug 18th, 2012 at 12:05pm
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looking at getting one of the above rifles, was wondering what others here on the forum would do if they were in my shoes

pretty much the rifle would be set up as a bush rifle with either a red dot or a 1-5x power scope, no shots would be taken over 150m, target species for this rifle would be mainly reds, goats and fallow in around the lower NI  , both rifles fit me nice as well

been thinking about it for a while i think i just need a push in the right direction oh one last thing i use the safety catch when off the trail's so not concerned about half bolt
  

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Re: which would you prefer Ruger MINI's vs CZ 527's
Reply #1 - Aug 18th, 2012 at 7:54pm
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they are very different options matt. makes it a bit hard to compare and choose imo as they are all good firearms but very different things.
  
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Re: which would you prefer Ruger MINI's vs CZ 527's
Reply #2 - Aug 18th, 2012 at 8:25pm
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Hard choice

The Mini 14 is excelent for pest control especially on goats might be a bit light for a red at 150m though that where the Mini 30 would come into it's own.

However I love the CZ's especially in .223, This got my vote just get closer when stalking the reds and you'll do ok.

I'd go with the 1-5 scope, and save for a .308 to take care of them reds.

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Re: which would you prefer Ruger MINI's vs CZ 527's
Reply #3 - Aug 19th, 2012 at 12:36am
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buy my mini 30 and you are set up to go!!!
  
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Re: which would you prefer Ruger MINI's vs CZ 527's
Reply #4 - Aug 19th, 2012 at 1:18am
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i voted for the 7.62,,at some stage when you get the urge to go longer it allows you to be able to convert to a 6.5 grendel,,good out to 500 yrds
  

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Re: which would you prefer Ruger MINI's vs CZ 527's
Reply #5 - Aug 19th, 2012 at 11:50pm
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i picked the 7.62 version of the cz, I allready have a 223 one and there is no point having two Grin
the 223 ones are great. the feel more like a 22lr
  
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Re: which would you prefer Ruger MINI's vs CZ 527's
Reply #6 - Aug 19th, 2012 at 11:59pm
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if i had to buy one of them it would be the 527 in 223 or 7.62 depending on wat i wanted it for

to be honest i wouldn't buy any of the above but thats just me
  

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Re: which would you prefer Ruger MINI's vs CZ 527's
Reply #7 - Aug 20th, 2012 at 5:55am
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ruger compact in 223 or 7.62x39 over the cz as single stack mags are a pain in the ass as the carry point is the magazine sticking out the bottom.
  
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Re: which would you prefer Ruger MINI's vs CZ 527's
Reply #8 - Aug 20th, 2012 at 6:56am
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My pick would be "I don't like rust" Mini 30 stainless steel with a AimPoint red dot sight for bush hunting, rapid follow up shots on goats.
  
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Re: which would you prefer Ruger MINI's vs CZ 527's
Reply #9 - Aug 20th, 2012 at 8:23am
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I have a 527 in 7.62x39.  Awesome little rifle and crazy accurate.  I am getting 1 MOA accuracy from Barnaul ammo.  I put a small 1.5x4.5 scope on it and it suits me perfect.  Small, compact, and lightweight package.

The only complaint I have is the magazine.  I would have much preferred an internal on over a detachable.

One of the most interesting features of the 527 is that it has a set trigger if you choose to use it.
  
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Re: which would you prefer Ruger MINI's vs CZ 527's
Reply #10 - Aug 20th, 2012 at 10:09am
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Voted for the 527 in .223
I'm sooooo tempted to get a CZ Ebony Edition!  Cheesy Wink Grin
  
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Re: which would you prefer Ruger MINI's vs CZ 527's
Reply #11 - Aug 20th, 2012 at 2:23pm
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seems the CZ are really pulling ahead, for those that have voted for CZ would you be alright taking it bush bashing and scratching up the stock?

also in your opinion whats the deciding factor, the action or the accuracy?

lastly if you were to be using a 223 in either rifle and stumbled on a red what range would be your max? as i'm guessing neck shot would be the only viable option
  

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Re: which would you prefer Ruger MINI's vs CZ 527's
Reply #12 - Aug 20th, 2012 at 7:12pm
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Its a rifle so its going to get dinged up if you use it just like any other.  It will still drop deer just as good.  It is a very smart looking rifle new though.

My deciding factor was on mine in 7.62x39 was a number of things.  I really like the short action on it which is sized for the smaller cartridges rather than a smaller cartridge just chambered in a rifle designed for a larger one.  Since accuracy from most bolt rifles from the major companies is pretty good this really was not a huge factor so your are likely going to get it regardless of who you buy from and the accuracy from the CZ is very good.  Can't really say the same for semi's although. The mini's seem to get good reviews but in general a bolt gun is going to be more accurate but people have got good results from the mini's.  The compact size was a big sell for me.  These rifles are made for the bush.  You really can't apprieciate how compact the carbine 527 is until you handle one.  The other features which were nice to have but not really deciding factors was the set-trigger and the fixed sights.  The fixed sights are good enough to hunt with and at some point I will bag a deer or two using them.

In my opinion if you are using the rifle in the bush, there is really no point to go with the .223 which only real advantages over the 7.62x39 are flatter shooting out past 200m (not an issue in the bush) and a wider selection of projectiles if you reload.  It will offer a bit less recoil but the 7.62 is pretty mild anyways.  I guess if you want to use the rifle on rabbits or other smaller game as well the .223 would be better.

Minor complaints with the 527.  The way the bolt is designed it is necessary to use the high scope mounts that came with the rifle or the bolt hits the scope when you cycle it.  They are the CZ brand mounts and are very nice steel ones.  That and you can't use a scope with an eye piece over about 41mm in diameter.  Like someone else mentioned the magazine is located at the balance point you would carry the rifle one-handed.  Both of these are minor to me but might not be for others.

I typically reload, but after running the numbers it did not make sense to do so for this caliber for as much as I shoot.  Loaded ammo selection is a bit limited compared to the .223.  You can get Barnaul ammo cheap which is surprisingly very accurate - like 1 MOA accurate out of this rifle.  I use it at the range and have been hunting with the Hornady SST load which has been pretty effective:

http://www.natchezss.com/product.cfm?contentID=productDetail&prodID=HO8078&src=s...

I have read people have hunted with the Barnaul SP loads with good results but I have not tried them yet.
  
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Re: which would you prefer Ruger MINI's vs CZ 527's
Reply #13 - Aug 20th, 2012 at 8:14pm
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Matt P.Nth wrote on Aug 20th, 2012 at 2:23pm:
seems the CZ are really pulling ahead, for those that have voted for CZ would you be alright taking it bush bashing and scratching up the stock?

also in your opinion whats the deciding factor, the action or the accuracy?

lastly if you were to be using a 223 in either rifle and stumbled on a red what range would be your max? as i'm guessing neck shot would be the only viable option

lung shots are no problem at sensible range with a .223
  
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Re: which would you prefer Ruger MINI's vs CZ 527's
Reply #14 - May 4th, 2018 at 12:35am
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Hmmm...I like the .223 but it seems like a lot of gun for rabbits, especially if you plan to eat them. For goats and fallows , it should work. What are the ammo costs. Like?
  
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