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How To: Add Google Earth Images to Garmin Oregon/Montana 4 FREE
Sep 19th, 2011 at 10:20am
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Hi Guys,
I've been playing with a fella from works Garmin Oregon 550, and It's a bloody neat bit of kit. We had a need to mark a whole bunch of clearings from a Google Earth map as waypoints to 'visit' and figured the easiest way was just to copy the whole picture to the unit and then cruise from one to another.

That lead to this tutorial.

Don't pay for 'Birdseye' imagery when you cen just do it this way  Wink  FOR FREE
Read the Attached PDF for full instructions.

Enjoy!




Now with all that money you've saved you can send me some  Smiley

PDF Instructions:http://tinyurl.com/44czwlw

Example Map http://tinyurl.com/3ssrubs

Note: this map wasn't created at a very good zoom level, So it comes on at around 1200m (zoom Level), and the quality is not that flash when you zoom right in.

If you load this example onto your unit, you'll find it here:

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Edit: Links Updated: Thanks to T-Rex for his kind hosting.
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Reply #1 - Sep 19th, 2011 at 4:48pm
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Cool. Do you know if it would work on a 62s?
  

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Reply #2 - Sep 19th, 2011 at 5:24pm
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Pengy wrote on Sep 19th, 2011 at 4:48pm:
Cool. Do you know if it would work on a 62s?


I'd like to know too.

All my attempts to load google earth images have resulted in very dark (almost unusable) images overlaid on the topo maps.  Sad
  
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Reply #3 - Sep 19th, 2011 at 6:15pm
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Sorry Guys, I don't have access to a 62 to try it on, but itf you download the attached trial kmz file, you can just stick it on your device in the CustomMaps directory and try it out yourselves. If your unit can display custom maps I'd say YES it will work.

Actually, Can someone with a 62 please try the example map I loaded and let me know if it works, If it's OK i'll change the thread title.  Cheers

Edit: According to the web site, it should work on both the 62 & 62s
  

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Reply #4 - Sep 19th, 2011 at 8:35pm
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Hi Kersh,

Happy to use my hosting bandwidth for these, links below:

PDF: http://tinyurl.com/44czwlw

KMZ File: http://tinyurl.com/3ssrubs

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Thanks T-Rex. That's a whole lot easier than File Factory! I've updated the links in the original post and chopped out all the FF blurb.   Smiley
  

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Thanks a million for taking the time and trouble to put this stuff together. I am sending you a "Virtual"box in flavour of your choice. 
I will let you know how it works on my 62s.   Smiley
  

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Tested on the gpsmap62s , I have made these maps many different ways and this one seems to be the clearest in terms of image i had to use the bing option as the google one didnt wanna play. Overall pretty good i reckon  Smiley
  
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Reply #8 - Sep 20th, 2011 at 7:59pm
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hg wrote on Sep 20th, 2011 at 7:31pm:
Tested on the gpsmap62s , I have made these maps many different ways and this one seems to be the clearest in terms of image i had to use the bing option as the google one didnt wanna play. Overall pretty good i reckon  Smiley


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Any chance of some screen shots from the 62s.
Did you find the images dark?

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hg wrote on Sep 20th, 2011 at 7:31pm:
Tested on the gpsmap62s , I have made these maps many different ways and this one seems to be the clearest in terms of image i had to use the bing option as the google one didnt wanna play. Overall pretty good i reckon  Smiley


What was your issue with google?, was it the missing tile problem? or just out of date imagery? I have found that sometimes with the missing tiles error, you can simply make two differnt halves of the map you want, then load them both on to your unit. Also try zooming out a little. If you're looking at an area that has new imagery, with old imagery down one side, try and trim your draw area so that it only includes tha new imagery bits.  Cheers.

Edit: Hey HG, you can improve the picture buy zooming in more before you click 'Set Zoom Level'. What zoom level did your map come on at (on the 62s). I've got a couple that come on at 200m zoom, you can see individual trees in a pine forest (ahem) Sambar block.
  

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Reply #10 - Sep 20th, 2011 at 8:42pm
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I have tried several times and several downloads of Trailmap, but I cannot get it to launch for step 4.
Keeps putting up a message telling me that Trailmap has encountered a problem and has to close.
Any suggestions ?  Embarrassed
  

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Pengy wrote on Sep 20th, 2011 at 8:42pm:
Keeps putting up a message telling me that Trailmap has encountered a problem and has to close.
Any suggestions ?  Embarrassed


Buy a new computer  Grin

Do you have a broadband connection? I had a similar error at work, but it seems to have fixed itself? I think it was a firewall issue at work. If you're running Win7 or Vista, try right clicking on the icon and click 'Run as administrator'. Failing that try turning off your virus scanner, then run it (bit of a long shot, but might work). If it's stopping at the black DOS window with an error, it may be struggling to find your 'Internet Explorer' are you running IE or Chrome / Firefox etc...? I'll have a troll and see what i can find. What's the wording of the error exactly.

Edit: Lol, I upgraded to IE9 last night, and now I've got an error too. Haa Ha.
It is the same error i got at work



If you get this error, you Internet Explorer will probably be flashing a note saying Intranet disabled, just click 'Turn on Intranet settings', you'll get a warning pop-up, blaa blaa, click OK. Then TrailMap should run....I think
  

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Running IE and yes it is stopping at the black dos box.
Message is;
loadingconfig file c;\program files\trailmapinstallation\mongoose.conf
mongoose 2.8 started on port (s) 8080, serving directory [c;\program files\trailmap installation]

  

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P38 wrote on Sep 20th, 2011 at 7:59pm:
Hg
Any chance of some screen shots from the 62s.
Did you find the images dark?

Cheers
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I usually find them a little dark but doing it the way as explained above seemed to be a bit lighter and alot easier to see slips and things on
  
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@Pengy:
Try the above first (I've updated the post). Failing that, Trailmaps runs on Microsoft Silverlight, so depending on how old your PC is, you may need to install Silverlight first.
http://www.microsoft.com/getsilverlight/Get-Started/Install/Default.aspx

Try that and let me know how you get on.
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Kersh wrote on Sep 20th, 2011 at 8:27pm:
What was your issue with google?, was it the missing tile problem? or just out of date imagery? I have found that sometimes with the missing tiles error, you can simply make two differnt halves of the map you want, then load them both on to your unit. Also try zooming out a little. If you're looking at an area that has new imagery, with old imagery down one side, try and trim your draw area so that it only includes tha new imagery bits.  Cheers.

Edit: Hey HG, you can improve the picture buy zooming in more before you click 'Set Zoom Level'. What zoom level did your map come on at (on the 62s). I've got a couple that come on at 200m zoom, you can see individual trees in a pine forest (ahem) Sambar block.

Issue was the particular area i had selected wouldnt zoom , so when i went in it didnt load so was unclear , when i changed it to bing , it zoomed in straight away , so could go in and out as per usual with any other programme.The picture is clear i got a good sized area into the kmz. Smiley
  
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Just a note the picture is still more black than green , think its something to do with gpsmap62s more than anything , but this way will get you the clearist image , I have a programme that you can edit the jpegs that form the file , to set the colours correctly for the unit , so will have a play with that tommorrow.
  
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Reply #17 - Sep 20th, 2011 at 10:17pm
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HG, can you take screenshots? On the Oregon, you go to Setup -> Display Setup, then enable screen capture (or something like that..), then when you give the power button a quick press it takes a screenshot and stores it in a \SCRn directory on the unit. Does that work on 62s ?

p.s. Your google problem is because they haven't taken full high resolution images of the whole of New Zealand. Bing can certainly be better in places
  

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Heres a few screen shots , The darkness is to do with the unit not the pictures. Coz they arent this colour on the unit .

  
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They look good HG. As you say the limitation must be the unit itself. Try This:
Browse in Trailmap to your area with google or bing, then switch to 'Open Street' -> 'Normal' (LH Side), then on the right side, click 'Overlays' -> 'Bing as Overlay'. Hit the '+' sign next to it (you should get a slider bar below), move the slider to the left to reduce the image intensity to your required level. Then carry on with the 'Draw Area' etc etc.



Edit: The tiny black down arrow next to the slider is to select satelite, normal etc
  

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Is there anything (you know of) that can do this on a Mac?
  

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Reply #22 - Sep 21st, 2011 at 10:41pm
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I've downloaded Trailmap had a good play with this and my 62s and I like it.

The images are brighter on the 62s than the Mobile Atlas KMZ's although I did have to turn the screen brightness up to maximum which means shorter battery life. Just have to remember to turn it back down after each viewing.

The tiles were heaps less too. The area I selected, a Ruahine stream system, ended up being only 4 tiles. which is plenty area for a good days hunting for this fat boy.

Based on my trial today I believe I will use the image option overlaid with my topomaps more often now.

Kersh
Thanks for the post and the effort to you put in to write up all the instructions. Made it easy for me.

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Tried all the above and Trailmap still wont launch. Dammit.
  

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Reply #24 - Sep 22nd, 2011 at 8:46am
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Morning Folks,
@ James:
Mate i think it'll run on Mac's but only on Windows running on a virtual machine within the Mac OS.
http://www.vmware.com/products/fusion/overview.html
or Google 'Running Windows on a Mac'

@P38:
My pleasure mate, just here to help and learn some stuff myself  Smiley
I was pretty impressed with it too. It looks great on the Oregon, Gonna have to get myself one!
I think we'll be using it more too, Once you've done one It's pretty easy eh.
Did you notice that you can overlay multiple map images with the overlays box (top right in Trailmap). Enjoy!

@ Pengy: That's a bummer mate. PM me the area you'd like to play with if you like and I'll make a KMZ for you. Got any hunting buddies with PC's you can borrow?
  

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Reply #25 - Oct 3rd, 2011 at 6:14pm
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Thanks very much for this very helpful tutorial.  At long last I've made a custom map - just the city area for a start for practice but was far too greedy and ended up with over 5,000 images.  Now I'm looking into part the Rimutaka Forest Park area for a customer.  Using Trailmap, Bing shows excellent detail in under 2-3 seconds. 

However when I switch to Google the satellite map is very course indeed and takes much longer to display.  Trying to get a better quality image by zooming in as close as Bing results in a blurry mess with no detail.  If I switch back to Bing it's a great image apart from some cloud in one area - which is why I was trying Google.

In Google Maps the area is shown quickly in high detail but not in Trailmap. Same on the other computer, both XP with Firefox.   I noticed when doing the Christchurch area the other day that Google was very sluggish in displaying maps.  Thought it may have been because both areas had a fair bit of sea but not so, inland areas are the same.  Any tips on the reason for this slow / course behaviour with Google satellite view in Trailmap?

Thanks again for the lesson - it was excellent so I told another new 62s owner.  Two hours later he phoned back very pleased with his new high detail aerial map of a friends farm and surrounding area.
  

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Ok, too greedy again and got nearly 3,000 jpegs which resulted in 2 .kml files.  That's not so bad but my query is - when I view them in GE the individual tiles are not tidily together, instead they are spread out like a crossword.  Is there a setting to get around this and make the jpegs bunch up or is the only answer to just select smaller areas at step 5?
  

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Reply #28 - Oct 4th, 2011 at 1:27pm
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Hi Tony,
I've had a similar experience with Google inside trailmap, It appears to be a bit random in it's clarity, a map that looks crap on my work PC will sometimes render sharp as at home.
I do know that google have recently added 'Historic imagery' to Google Earth, and Trailmap seemed to run sweet as before this addition. I believe (although it's a guess) that Trailmap is picking up the hostoric imagery, not the latest images, so I guess we'll have to wait until the author rewrites that bit to include a date slider ala Goolge Earth (In GE click 'View' -> 'Historical Imagery'. You'll then get a date slider near the top left, you will probably find that the most recent imagery is not neccessarily the best. I think this is where Trailmap is losing it's way. As for the crossworded jpgs?..... I'm not too sure what you mean?  If you save you're KML files otu and then load lots of them into Google Earth, Google will forever try and display your KML file (not it's own imagery), which may give you that effect (I think). However, you can just uncheck them from the tree on the left (in GE, under 'Temporary Places'), and it will again display Googles own imagery.

Hope that helps? If not PM me your number and I'll give you a buzz tonight.

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Reply #29 - Oct 4th, 2011 at 3:23pm
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Thanks - I think you're right, Google is using old images.

Here's a screen shot to show what happened when I had too many tiles and the downloader made 2 KML files, resulting in the "crossword" layout of all the individual tiles, instead of bunched together. 



and here's one where I fluked 99 tiles which are nicely bunched together, red border drawn in afterwards for clarity:



The resulting kmz Custom Map (62MB) seriously slows down GPS start-up time on the eTrex 20.

I used the 200m scale on the TrailMap programme and the custom map came on in the GPS at the 300m scale. 

I found that the Open Project Topo map did not suit this custom map at all as it laid it's own vegetation over the map as well as the contours.  So I've asked if the OP topo map is available with just the contours for use with custom maps.

MapToaster Topo definitely behaves better on this custom map as the vegetation does not obscure but contours remain OK.  Screen shots from a 78s (same screen and software as a 62s): 

   

The above kmz file (inside the red border) is stored here in my Dropbox here in case it's of use to others.

  

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Reply #30 - Oct 4th, 2011 at 4:08pm
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That's looking good. Does the 78s suffer the same 'Dark Images' as the 62s? Those screenshots look fine, but so did some from a previous post above that were causing some dark issues.
We've been using the Custom maps with Topo V3 maps, not the free OS ones, but once you're near the correct area, you can just about turn the others off, unless you can't tell if you're walking up or downhill  Smiley

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Kersh wrote on Oct 4th, 2011 at 4:08pm:
... Does the 78s suffer the same 'Dark Images' as the 62s?
 
The 78s screen looks fine, not too dark but I had the back light on full.  Even with the back light off it's OK.  I assume the 78s has the same screen as the 62s - no reason for it to be different.  The images were from Bing - maybe that helps. 

  

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Made another couple of maps today - the method is very easy and the Bing maps don't look dark.

First one was a block of the Kaimanawa Forest Park toward the North East - at the end of Clements Mill Road.  The map block is shown by the red border:





I don't know why the border is tilted ... I just drew the border in GE then saved the border, converted it to MapSource format and opened it in MapToaster PC. 

Anyway, by choosing the Bing maps and using the 200m zoom setting in TrailMap a custom map of 25 tiles and 7.6MB resulted.  The custom map has been uploaded to here in case it's of use to anyone else.  There's an awful lot of vegetation in that area so few land features can be seen - like clearings.

Here's a few screen shots from the Oregon 550 which will hopefully be earning it's keep in this area in the next few days.   Underlying map in this case is the Garmin Aust/NZ Topo v3 which behaved very well.  Custom map came on at the 300m scale.

   

   

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2nd map was a farm so here's some screen shots from the 78s, again TrailMap zoom was 200m and maps were Bing.  Custom map switches on at 300m.   Underlying topo map here is MapToaster Mobile:

     

 

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I've got another tutorial that I've been meaning to write too.
I've found an easy way to convert the Linz GeoTiff Maps to KML's too. Good for all those Old School boys that are used to looking at those maps as well. Only downside is you're pretty limited to the map tiles the GeoTiff's come in, i.e. BQ31, BQ32 etc etc. I'll try and get it out this weekend.

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OK, Bit of an update for you all.

I've been in contact with the author of TrailMap (Nice Guy). I told him of the out of date Google Imagery problems some were experiencing (2007 Images, not 2010). He's updated the Google URL's and re-created the download (Now Beta 2.0), I've been testing it, but thus far can't get it to display any Google images at all...
So, It's either broken, or I've done something wrong while installing it this time.
I've sent him feedback, and suggested that If he could add the Google 'Historic Imagery' slider that'd be awesome. (Some 'most recent' imagery displays clouds in places).

So Until further tests are run, I'd suggest sticking with the previous version.
  

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UpDate No.2
It's all fixed, he e-mailed me back this morning with version 2 (of beta 2), and All the problems seem to have gone. It now runs the most up-to-date images from Google and terrain has returned  Smiley
Nice one Kannan K.

He's also said that he'll add the google 'Historic Imagery' slider in the next release, towards the end of November - December (ish). So that'll be a handy addition too.

It's All good to go. Just uninstall it (If you have it already installed), then go to the download page, grab 2.0 beta and away you go.

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The new version has helped a lot thanks.  An area of old data up in the Kaimais is now in high detail in Google which is handy as the Bing version is very cloudy.

I tried making a custom map of the Lincoln (Canterbury) area but the Bing maps were not detailed and Google were too dark.  Even so, tried bulk brightening the Google images with Irfanview but they ended up looking like a patchwork quilt with wildly varying patterns / colours, even for farm land. 

But today have made a quite usable map using Bing in the Glenorchy area.  Here again, the Bing maps are much brighter than the Google version.   This screen shot of the Bing tiles in Google Earth shows how much brighter they are:



Here are a few screen shots from an eTrex 20. 

- The custom map is 36 tiles and 6MB. 
- Used the 100m zoom level in Trailmap.  Thanks again for this easy program and tutorial!
- A yellow track was also made to border the custom map.  This makes it easy for the user to know where the custom map is and the extents without  having to zoom in and pan around.  Made the track (path) in GE, saved then used WinGDB3 to convert and open it in MapSource.  Chose colour and name then sent to the GPS.
- The custom map switches on at the 200m scale.
- The topo map is MapToaster V2, which now has Conservation Estate boundaries (purple lines)

First of all, various zoom levels coming in to the map. 

         

      

And here's a few other shots in the area:

      

The eTrex 20 takes about 5-7 seconds to completely redraw a new screen while within the custom map area.   On a 78s (essentially the same as a 62s) the redraw is quite a bit quicker. 

I made it just as a sample to give the new owner an idea of what is possible on this remarkable new model - under $300!

Update:  The customer was quick to notice that the Bing map was at least 4 years old as there has been a lot of building in the township lately.  Not a big issue for the remote areas of course, just a observation.



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Can it be done on a Garmin Colorado 400 ?
  
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Yes, according to the compatibility page here: Garmin Custom Maps

The underlying topo map is also important if you want to see the contours, fence lines, waterways etc.
  

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Happy to use my hosting bandwidth for these, links below:

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My Google Chrome browser couldn't find either of these links.
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Ah, That's 'cos the links have gone. Dooh!
I've added them to my own 'DropBox' (Cheers Tony @ KiwiGPS for the info).

Try These:

How To Add Google Earth Images to Garmin Units

DEMO Kmz Map File.

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Ah, That's 'cos the links have gone. Dooh!
I've added them to my own 'DropBox' (Cheers Tony @ KiwiGPS for the info).

Cheers for the heads up  Wink


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Here's a few shots using the Gary Turner NZ Topo map as the underlying GPS topo map on a 78s (same screen as the 62s).  Taken in the Rankleburn area (between Gore and Balclutha):



  

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There was a firmware update a while back that claims to have fixed the dark google images problem.  Could be worth updating if you are not already on the latest firmware.  Worked on my oregon 300 anyway.
  

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Hi, Thanks heaps for all the input in this thread! easy to follow instructions and great results  Cool

what would be the best underlying topomap package to use in conjunction with the google earth images?
(just replaced my 60csx with a 62s after a bunch of my gear was stolen and now need to buy a new topomap set) have tried the openGS maps and they are sweet but the shading does detract from the google earth images.

would my mates oregon 300 support the google map images too?

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I don't know which is the "best" underlying topo map but MapToaster and the now out of date GT Topo map work fine.

Yes, your custom map will work on any Oregon or other compatible Garmin GPS units - info and list here: http://www.garmin.com/us/products/onthetrail/custommaps.
  

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I couldn't get this to work unfortunately Lips Sealed, it wouldn't download the tiles, keeps on saying 'one or more errors have occured'. Part of the map involved the Clutha River so I tryed it with only land but no go. Also my 400c doesn't have a 'Custom Maps' folder. Does this matter? Also does anybody know any other good ways to get maps onto gps if this doesn't work?

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Hmm, Strange, It should still work. If you like I can give it a whirl for you.
Open Google Earth, add a placemark (drawing pin icon up the top), give it a name etc, then right click on it and save it as test.kmz, then e-mail me the kmz file (PM with e-mail addy to follow). Tell me how large an area you want and I'll see if it works for me.

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Thanks for the info, esp Kersh and Kiwitonita, I reckon this type of thing is the huge upside of the forum, some of the trolls in other threads give me the stitch, but this is what it should be about.  Have printed off the instructions and will give it a go.  If I was a bit younger and not so lazy I'd have a go at seeing if there is demand to create custom maps for people, at $10/map or similar.  Maybe a copyright issue?  I'd pay it as my brain gets pretty sore trying to relearn it every 6 months.
  
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Hi there Smiley

Since a few weeks I'm getting the following error with Trialmap:

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Worked fine before. Any idea how to fix this one?


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Ah, Yeees. It's died  Cry

I'll try contacting the author, but It looks like a money collecting scheme from M$oft and $oogle.
  

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Trailmap Authors reply:

'Hi Kersh,

Yes, my developer key expired already fixed those stuffs, i need to fix few other issues related to silverlight.

over this weekend i will fix and create new setup.

it is been pending, cos i stuck in my office work.

Kannan K'


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Anyone have all the doc huts/camps that can be transfered onto google earth?
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Hey just bought a Rino and have been researching how to get google earth images on. I guess the first step are maps.  I'd appreciate advice on a good map. Do I need to buy map toaster type maps or are the downloaded maps via Linz ok these days?
  
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I prefer the LiNZ maps to all the vector options. Guess its just what you're used to.
They will eat your batteries a bit quicker, but I'd rather carry spares and have a clear map to read.  Roll Eyes
  

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Thet are getting better with each update.

Free LINZ Topo50 Garmin mapsets - raster vs vector.

All credit to LINZ and Mr.Purple.

I won't insert the images here but here they are:
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So GoogleTrail seems to be broken since quite a while, is there a working solution for this at the moment ?

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My Bad,
seems to work even if it does have "Invalid credentials blah.." across the screen.
I had mongoose firewalled.

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Nev wrote on Apr 26th, 2013 at 1:31pm:
Kersh

Thet are getting better with each update.

Free LINZ Topo50 Garmin mapsets - raster vs vector.

All credit to LINZ and Mr.Purple.

I won't insert the images here but here they are:
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True NEV, In fact looking at them again now I'd say they're brilliant.
I've used your GPS version of Mr Purples map and the quality is excellent.

For those that need help, go to this page:
GWProjects
and download NEV's 'LINZ Topo50 with roads' 681mb in the second post
(I won't link it here, cos' these links change and drop out).
Once downloaded, rename it to something less wordy (e.g. 'Topo50')
and copy it to the MicroSD card in your GPS.
Then you just have to enable it in the GPS map settings (Best to turn off the rest for clarity, except DEM Basemap).

Or for the really computer illiterate just buy an SD card from Mr Purple on trademe and get the FREE maps pre-installed, Thus supporting his future efforts!

p.s. NEV, a couple of your links on the page are dead  Sad

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Unfortunately Trailmap stopped working ages ago.  What's the easiest way now to get a Google Earth image suitable for a Garmin GPS?
  

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Have you tried a modified version of MOBAC? I've not used it in ages (now use phone), but I think It'll let you save an option for GPS units. You'll need to patch it first though.

I did a How To Here:
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Thanks, no I've not used Mobac at all.  After a few hours Googling etc and getting pretty much over the limitations of Custom Maps anyway (the tile limit and slow screen response) I eventually figured out how to patch the firmware on the 78s GPS so that it could display BirdsEye images downloaded for another GPS - in this case a 64s that comes with a 1 year subscription for BirdsEye.

As the BirdsEye interface is pretty clunky with minimal instructions / support another method was found in SAS.Planet.  This is a Russian based programme, free with an English interface and an English section on the user forum.  This programme is capable of generating the BirdsEye type of file (.jnx) from a wide variety of sources, mainly Europe / US coverage.

For NZ I found that the area of Google Satellite imagery I was trying to download (Big Ben, south west of Lake Taupo) became very blurry over a large area around the mountain so it was unusable.  All other areas on NZ and the world are the normal good detail.  I think they take a dim view of actually downloading their data so will have to try from a different computer / router (guessing here).  The Bing satellite images were not too bad but not evenly coloured so the next was ESRI > Arc.GIS Terrain.  This was an even colour and a good sized area covering about 5km NSEW of Big Ben was converted to .jnx format and loaded to the GPS.  The idea was to show the bush clearings and I hope the data is not too dated. 

Have also downloaded Mobac just now and will look into that further.  Thanks for the tutorial!

10 mins later ... Nokia Satellite and Ovi Sat look darn fine alternatives to Google Satellite!
  

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Hi Tony,
Yeah, I did have a play with *.jnx files a couple fo years back, but never really  used them as I didn't have a GPS (still don't really). I was borrowing a mates Oregon 550 (maybe 450?) and making maps for hunting with him. I did have all the jnx file creation sussed, but I needed to patch his firmware to run them, which I wasn't comfortable with in case I screwed his warranty. If it was mine I would have definitely patched it  Wink
I know the jnx file gives you more layers (zoom levels) and more than the poxy 100 tile limit, but can you tell me, are they any quicker to redraw than the google sat imagery custom maps? I might have to revisit then and patch his unit  Roll Eyes.

Mobac is a pretty useful tool, once you get the hang of it. I used it to create full topo maps of the LiNZ Topo50, for both Islands with full zoom levels. It's also very useful for creating maps that are topo up to a certain zoom level, and then switch to Sat imagery once you zoom right in.  Might have to borrow another Garmin and have another play  Cool
  

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Yes, the jnx files seem to pan very quickly.  Am downloading more of the SI at the moment so will try it out and time how long it takes to pan from coast to coast at a certain zoom level once the files are on the 64s.

The maximum area that can be downloaded for each tile at their highest quality setting is about 254 sq. km which is about 15,500 images.  The tile file size limit is 233MB. 

The shape of the tile can be a square / rectangle or can be hand drawn with click and drag of the mouse so this is convenient to avoid getting too much ocean.  However the dialogue box does not show the selected size until the hand drawn shape is closed (the end joins up with the start) which is a bit of a nuisance as if the bounded area is too big there's no fine adjustment - you have to redraw it again.

Here's Mt Fell Hut (near Wairau River, South Island) with the Open Project Topo v12 map switched on in BaseCamp:


  

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I am really struggling with this. I have downloaded SAS Planet and MOBAC but am having a hard time of it.

I have managed to import the .kml file of the Mangatainoka 2 block from the Helisika website (I am heading in there in a couple of weeks) into SAS Planet to get the boundary and location of the hut. I have also managed to manipulate the opacity and border colours and thickness etc. When I export it to my Garmin 64S as a .jnx file it comes up with "invalid .jnx" and will not show up in the map loading options.

Has anyone had success getting satellite images and overlays onto a 64S? Any help would be appreciated.
  
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Re: How To: Add Google Earth Images to Garmin Oregon/Montana 4 FREE
Reply #67 - Jul 10th, 2015 at 12:46pm
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You need a valid subscription to Garmin Birdseye for *.jnx files to work.
The other option to get them to run is to patch/hack your firmware, then they will run and it won't care where they came from.

JNX Info Here
Some Patcher Info Here   Wink
More Patches / Maps e.t.c  Wink

Remember!......Buy em if you like em! So they can afford development  Cool
No doubt they are already feeling the pinch of waterproof smart phones with better screens and better maps  Lips Sealed
Android : BackCountry Navigator
iPhone : Galileo

Garmin 64/64S JNX Patch : Here

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Re: How To: Add Google Earth Images to Garmin Oregon/Montana 4 FREE
Reply #68 - Sep 14th, 2015 at 11:39pm
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Hi there,

gMapMaker & OziMapToKMZ are now doing the job for me.
Both are freeware and no need to patch your firmware. If you want to pay a couple of bucks, MAPC2MAPC is more up to date.


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