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Kiwiken Forum Guide Staff Online Forum Guide Offline Born to fish Posts: 24 Location: Manawatu Joined: Jan 19^th, 2011 Gender:	Out damn trout – poison them I say! Feb 22^nd, 2011 at 12:02pm	Print Post
	Despite the protestations of the NZFFA, Minister Kate Wilkinson has decided to poison the trout in the upper dam of the Karori Reservoir, so that the Zealandia Trust can establish some kind of return to a mythical prehuman fantasy. We pointed out to the Minister previously that not only is this action contrary to the Act she is bound to administer, it sets objectionable and totally unnecessary precedents in destroying a public resource by a private Trust, and applying a poison known to cause human disease (in this case Parkinson’s Disease) to a public resource. Just in case anyone sympathetic to this kind of fantasy is of the opinion that this might be a necessary evil, we would point out that this group are electro fishing the native fish out of the reservoir prior to poisoning it. So why not electro fish the trout out as well? Why not stick them in the Karori Stream or Hutt River? They could do it, they just chose not to. They just want to poison them. We would also point out that Wellington Fish & Game could also electro fish these fish out. Just imagine that. Free fisheries enhancement for either the Hutt river or the Wellington Clubs Kids Fishout Pond. The silence from that organisation on this issue is deafening. We would like to record our extreme disappointment at this stupidity and lack of vision. Once again, this Government and this Minister have shown that they are no friends of fishermen.


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chris Global Forum Guide Donor Member Staff Offline a setter is better! Posts: 25697 Joined: Aug 3^rd, 2007 Gender:	Re: Out damn trout – poison them I say! Reply #1 - Feb 23^rd, 2011 at 8:46am	Print Post
	there bizarre love affair with toxic poisons always wins over public opinion and safety, as for enforcing any act they dont even come close, if it looks like they might have to they just change the rules, look at helihunting.


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Walker Donor Member Offline Yum T-rex Posts: 4247 Location: Mangawhai Joined: Nov 9^th, 2006 Gender:	Re: Out damn trout – poison them I say! Reply #2 - Feb 24^th, 2011 at 5:53pm	Print Post
	Give it some months then in with some perch

	Just do it
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chris Global Forum Guide Donor Member Staff Offline a setter is better! Posts: 25697 Joined: Aug 3^rd, 2007 Gender:	Re: Out damn trout – poison them I say! Reply #3 - Feb 25^th, 2011 at 10:45am	Print Post
	perch smerch walker! harden up, some big nasty pike would be awesome! a decent sport fish for a change!


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Kiwiken Forum Guide Staff Online Forum Guide Offline Born to fish Posts: 24 Location: Manawatu Joined: Jan 19^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Out damn trout – poison them I say! Reply #4 - Feb 25^th, 2011 at 3:21pm	Print Post
	Funny, the same thoughts had crossed my mind. I might have maligned Wellington F&G (slightly). Apparently, they have offered to remove the trout several times - and have been ignored!!!!!! Now what does that say about Zealandia, DOC and the Minister???


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Eccles Forum Senior Offline I Love The FishNhunt Forum Posts: 637 Location: Wanganui Joined: Sep 18^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Out damn trout – poison them I say! Reply #5 - Mar 9^th, 2011 at 10:16am	Print Post
	Isn't it weird how a "greenie" is always the first to suggest the use of some deadly poison for something, instead of trying their very best to implement a passive, known to be safe system, that would work ?


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guiness Just Joined Offline I Love The FishNhunt Forum Posts: 35 Joined: Mar 17^th, 2007	Re: Out damn trout – poison them I say! Reply #6 - Apr 22^nd, 2011 at 12:39pm	Print Post
	when will they realise you can not turn back the clock to before human intervension . but all these so called greenys who advicate the use of poison should lead by example and take the poison them selves to lower the human impact


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SKIN Forum Senior Offline I Love The FishNhunt Forum Posts: 764 Location: Waihi Joined: Nov 11^th, 2006 Gender:	Re: Out damn trout – poison them I say! Reply #7 - May 11^th, 2011 at 8:34pm	Print Post
	Is this the same greenies that stuffed the fur industry not only in NZ but globally? Whats next in their plan drop a few ton of 1080 in the same water shed? Seems to me the minister might not be a minister very long with that short sighted approach.


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gremlins Full Member Offline Posts: 462 Location: Taupo Joined: Feb 7^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Out damn trout – poison them I say! Reply #8 - Jun 1^st, 2011 at 11:52am	Print Post
	guiness wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2011 at 12:39pm: when will they realise you can not turn back the clock to before human intervension . but all these so called greenys who advicate the use of poison should lead by example and take the poison them selves to lower the human impact Right on the money, the concept of killing all in the name of conservation is beyond me,

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Allizdog Full Member Offline Posts: 484 Location: Christchurch Joined: Apr 2^nd, 2015 Gender:	Re: Out damn trout – poison them I say! Reply #9 - Sep 17^th, 2015 at 10:53pm	Print Post
	No friends of fisherman or hunters. For a country that advertises itself as clean an green, it sure uses a hell of a lot of poison. The greenys are trying to take the wildlife back to before European times. It's quite obvious. They concentrate on looking after native birds, lizards, snails and stupid plants. To hell with everything else. . . poison it!


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TS Forum Senior Offline I Love The FishNhunt Forum Posts: 574 Joined: Dec 7^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Out damn trout – poison them I say! Reply #10 - Oct 15^th, 2015 at 12:22pm	Print Post
	Kiwiken wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2011 at 12:02pm: Despite the protestations of the NZFFA, Minister Kate Wilkinson has decided to poison the trout in the upper dam of the Karori Reservoir, so that the Zealandia Trust can establish some kind of return to a mythical prehuman fantasy. We pointed out to the Minister previously that not only is this action contrary to the Act she is bound to administer, it sets objectionable and totally unnecessary precedents in destroying a public resource by a private Trust, and applying a poison known to cause human disease (in this case Parkinson’s Disease) to a public resource. Just in case anyone sympathetic to this kind of fantasy is of the opinion that this might be a necessary evil, we would point out that this group are electro fishing the native fish out of the reservoir prior to poisoning it. So why not electro fish the trout out as well? Why not stick them in the Karori Stream or Hutt River? They could do it, they just chose not to. They just want to poison them. We would also point out that Wellington Fish & Game could also electro fish these fish out. Just imagine that. Free fisheries enhancement for either the Hutt river or the Wellington Clubs Kids Fishout Pond. The silence from that organisation on this issue is deafening. We would like to record our extreme disappointment at this stupidity and lack of vision. Once again, this Government and this Minister have shown that they are no friends of fishermen. you could not electro fish the trout out of there, look at the size of it FFS. They'll be getting some of the native fish only from the margins, they won't get them all. That'll be enough for them to reintroduce later. It wouldn't be good enough to only get some of the trout if they want rid of them totally.


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Nomads Donor Member Offline Angler, hunter, gardener, cook Posts: 665 Location: North of there Joined: Aug 12^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: Out damn trout – poison them I say! Reply #11 - Oct 15^th, 2015 at 7:58pm	Print Post
	Why didn't they remove the dam? That was not here in pre European times...

	Like a cane chair at a nudist camp, always leave an impression.
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Micky Duck Donor Member Offline You shot it..You pluck it Posts: 7329 Location: Geraldine South Canterbury Joined: Dec 6^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Out damn trout – poison them I say! Reply #12 - Oct 18^th, 2015 at 7:46pm	Print Post
	why not let the plurry water out and fish them out of the shallow stream thats left..... poison is just wrong


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el_trout_whisperer Forum Senior Offline Embracing nature's beat down with Spartan reserve Posts: 864 Joined: Jun 22^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Out damn trout – poison them I say! Reply #13 - Nov 18^th, 2015 at 8:23pm	Print Post
	Walker wrote on Feb 24^th, 2011 at 5:53pm: Give it some months then in with some perch Did anyone restock it with trout yet? This would've pissed off a lot of people, no doubt someone will be dedicated to putting some sort of predatory species back in there.


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Mr Ar-15 Forum Senior Offline Ever Vigilant Posts: 573 Location: te anau Joined: Jul 17^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: Out damn trout – poison them I say! Reply #14 - Apr 23^rd, 2016 at 6:44pm	Print Post
	Greenies are the biggest bunch of hypocrites in history.... " we're green , communist and really think that being green means lots of green poison". F$&k the lot of them I say! Ever vigilant

	keeping it simple;22,223,308,7mm rem mag and 12ga.
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