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Reply #15 - Mar 20th, 2011 at 10:19pm
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pennyless wrote on Mar 20th, 2011 at 8:46am:
So much for the publics guaranted  recreational access. Yeah right  Cry


What were the actual terms of the guarantee? If it was free access, fish and game can take them to court. And win.
  

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Reply #16 - Mar 21st, 2011 at 2:22pm
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Given that S26zn of the CLRA states that it is an offense to charge for the right to fish, what exactly are you purchasing when you rock up with your fishing gear? Has anyone asked for a receipt detailing what was purchased, including a GST Number?

Trouble is F&G are scared to prosecute in case they lose. And Ministers Carter (Walking Access Commission) and Wilkinson (Conservation) have said that they see nothing wrong with charging for access to private property. Carter even says he sees nothing wrong with charging for fishing, despite it being prohibited by a law he is bound to enforce. Looks like we have the wrong crowd in control in Wellington. But it is an democracy, and you can do something about that.  Wink
  
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Reply #17 - Mar 21st, 2011 at 3:26pm
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When you work it out its bit of a rip off allright.  Paying $50 for unlimited access over 11 weekends of upland bird shooting... it works out to $4 a weekend.  I wouldn't for-go my Cappachino this week for that.  Or we could work it out on a per hectare basis... $50 devided by 19,000...  That seems quite expensive as well really. 


At the end of the day its a privaty owned forest who puts up with people vandilising trees, stealing deisel, growing drugs, burning cars.....  And we want something for nothing.... Roll Eyes

I am filing out my GBH form tonight and will post some reports.
  

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Reply #18 - Mar 22nd, 2011 at 12:27pm
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I was thinking along the same lines Hairy.

$50 will be saved by hunting Kaingaroa as all other spots are further away and consequently more gas money.

If you get 10 hogs for the season, which some guys will get on the opening weekend
thats $5/hog.

Im sure other users wont mind if people have boycotts, more animals/birds/fish for themselves. Good deal, you can chase upland birds, trout, hogs, sambar and reds all for the fee.
  

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Reply #19 - Mar 22nd, 2011 at 2:17pm
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Yeah and there are 18 bird hunting weekends, not 11.... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Having access every weekend to Whirinaki instead of having to get a access permit is usefull as well.
  

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Reply #20 - Mar 31st, 2011 at 3:04pm
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taken from latest Fish & Game  Reel Life


Good news about the forestry access for fishing the upper Rangitaiki river, Flaxy lake & whao canal. Fishing & hunting access permits for Kaingaroa forest can be obtained from Independent Security Consultants Ltd, 66 Tawera Rd, Rotorua, Ph 07 347 8880. These will begin 1st May 2011 to 25th September 2011 and also provide access at other times should there be low fire danger during the fire season. There is a now a cost of $50 involved. Please go to Timberlands Limited web site for up to date access information @ www.tll.co.nz Anglers should note that if you only require fishing access it is only the driver/vehicle that has to be registered. Passengers do not need to register, but their names are to be included on the permits. Therefore no registration fee applies to passengers for fishing access.
  

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Reply #21 - Apr 2nd, 2011 at 8:35pm
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But are they permited to fish ( passengers)? Application I have stated all persons over 15 need a permit. (Cant check it now its in the post)
  
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Reply #22 - Apr 3rd, 2011 at 4:27pm
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you are wasting your 50.00 because they will be closed more than open... like right now Kiangaroa is closed... to both fishing and hunting...... if its too dry now when will it be ok..like middle of winter on a wet day!!!!
  

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Reply #23 - Nov 6th, 2011 at 9:26pm
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Despite what has happened there is something we all can do and that is vote for UNitedFuture at the next election. I am number 2 on the lsit and Aalan Simmons (who you all know) is at number 5. All we need is 3.6% of the party vote to go to UnitedFuture and we will both get into parliament. What a real chance to do somehting and make Timberlands and others start to obey the laws that were written to so ensure there was access fro all to places like the Kaingaroa and Rangitaiki.

Dont give up....give us your vote. Party Vote UnitedFuture. A votefor us is a vote for the outdoors.
  

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Reply #24 - Nov 7th, 2011 at 3:27pm
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How far up the priority list do you think getting the road fixed would be Doug?  I am on the fence at the moment with UF.... With all the good intentions in the world I still think outdoor recreation might get pushed to the back of other more important things... but if you can garantee me that you will fix the Waipunga washout I will give you a vote.... Undecided Roll Eyes
  

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Reply #25 - Nov 12th, 2011 at 1:02am
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I Where did the old Kaingaroa thread go? cant find it was wanting to see if submissions got momentum
  
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