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Tents Again!
Nov 30th, 2010 at 9:54am
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Hey Guys, I have looked at the recent threads regarding Light Weight Tents and have another couple of questions that i hope someone can help with.
My trips would generally be limited to the Kaweka/Kaimanawa area generally from October at the earliest through to May. At times i could spend a week in the tops. I have probably narrowed my choice down to Hubba Hubba, Hubba Hubba Hp,Macpac Olympus or the Tera Nova Quasa Supa Lite.
The Hubba Hubba's are a three season tent- would this be adequate?
Is the Hp worth the extra 3 to 4 hundred $
Does the Hp have as good ventilation as the standard Hubba Hubba the inner mesh material is more dense? Dont want to be too hot in summer when there are mossies about.
Any issues with condensation in any of these?
Anyone know of a retailer in the auckland area that would have a selection of these to have a look at?
Can't find a waterproof rating for the, Hubba Hubba and Hp ,they state the floor is rated 10000mm but cant find rating on the rest of it.


Any other comments appreciated also, thanks in advance. Pete
  
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Reply #1 - Nov 30th, 2010 at 10:10am
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Looking at its is a little hard and forgive me but is irrelevant..
You really need feedback from places like this.
How else will you know if it condensates leaks or blows over?
The answers will arrive soon. Then you'll be less confused and have some good choices. Smiley
Hubba Bubbas about 5000. I think.
You better state if you camp tops at all. Sounds like you do from the sellection of interest.
  
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Reply #2 - Nov 30th, 2010 at 10:34am
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why not go tp Sylvia park and check them out?  Macpac have opened a store there, and bivouac is next door (and K'du is also next door)...you can compare the tents side by side..
  

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Reply #3 - Nov 30th, 2010 at 10:42am
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I run a Macpac Olympus, its bullet proof and can be used as just a fly at this time of year which is very handy and cuts its heavy weight and bulk in half.
You don't get condensation much with a fly just the bugs, in winter the tent is great for ventilation and okay for snow shedding.
I have had 100 kph winds smash that Olympus when other parties lost their tents the Olympus held.
Tahr cull several years ago we had something like 12 parties out.
7 tents lost/damaged IIRC, I think only 4 groups slept dry.
  

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Reply #4 - Nov 30th, 2010 at 10:52am
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Yep Primer feedback from people that use these tents is exactly what i'm after!The people selling them only tell you what you want to hear! Wink And as stated in the post i will be spending up to a week in the tops and i appreciate looking at them wont answer my questions, but will give me a better idea of type of construction, workmanship, what features some have and dont have.

Thanks blacksheep thats exactly what i wanted to know. I only live an hour out of AK but have no idea where to go, so that i spend as little time in the big smoke as possible!

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Reply #5 - Nov 30th, 2010 at 11:06am
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In my opinion, 3 season tents are fine for winter, but you need to make the decision if you will be pitching in the snow, and if you will actually go out when the forecast is for wind and snow.

A 4 season tent typically can hold up to wind and snow, whereas the 3 season tents can usually survive driving rain and cold, just not the same level of wind or snow.

It will make a difference to the price you pay and the weight. The olympus sounds like a great 4 season tent. Im surprised at Weathered's experience, tunnel tents usually fail before geodesic tents. But you cant argue with experience!

There's a difference between 'the tops' and Mt cook.

I made the decision to buy a lighter 3 season tent, but If I was gonna be consistently above the snowline, the olympus would be great, and only a 700gm weight difference.

If I was in your position, I'd get the Macpac Nautilus. Cheap, light, nz company, great 3 season tent.

I bought the Marmot limelight, but didn't realise the macpac sale would be as low as it is. (especially with the vip card)

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Reply #6 - Nov 30th, 2010 at 1:34pm
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Wilderness Mag has tents in this issue.
Rated the Hubba at 1500mm.
  
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Reply #7 - Nov 30th, 2010 at 2:30pm
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Ive used a Macpac Nautilus for about 16 years, all year round in all weather and never slept wet. Even after pitching the tent in really heavy rain or driving snow its kept me as snug as a bug in a rug Grin
Its still weatherproof but because the poles have started to wear through the nylon loops that hold the tent under the fly, Ive recently purchassed its replacement. I chose the bigger brother to the Nautilus, the Olympus. Also made by Macpac, its slightly heaver but my friend bought one when I bought my Nautilas and its a much stronger tent with a lot more room.
  
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we were on a tahr trip the other week, tents were Msr (have to check with CLaw exactly what model, macpac minaret and fairydown plateau (my two). We had some pretty high winds one night, the forecast had said they would be sever gale 110kmh at 2000m, we were at 1500. (lost a chilly bin with our food in it that had been buried in the snow) All three tents handled it with no damage. The minaret is pretty much a two pole version of the Olympus, I would have no worries about the Olympus handling it, You want something light so wont mention anything more about the plateau... Grin
Heres a pic of them (report on teh trip to come when I get video done, Claw took this photo)

  
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Looks like a carbon reflex. Noice.
  
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Reply #10 - Nov 30th, 2010 at 4:17pm
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If you are after a super light weight tent I use a MSR carbon reflex, they are amazingly light and for summer hunting you can leave the inner at home and use the poles and fly only.
If you are looking at buying locally PM me first as I more than likely can get you a carbon reflex for the price of a hubba hubba.
  
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Reply #11 - Nov 30th, 2010 at 4:18pm
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Distant Stalker wrote on Nov 30th, 2010 at 2:40pm:
we were on a tahr trip the other week, tents were Msr (have to check with CLaw exactly what model, macpac minaret and fairydown plateau (my two). We had some pretty high winds one night, the forecast had said they would be sever gale 110kmh at 2000m, we were at 1500. (lost a chilly bin with our food in it that had been buried in the snow) All three tents handled it with no damage. The minaret is pretty much a two pole version of the Olympus, I would have no worries about the Olympus handling it, You want something light so wont mention anything more about the plateau... Grin
Heres a pic of them (report on teh trip to come when I get video done, Claw took this photo)



How much was the chopper to get you boys up there ? I cant see any of you guys walking up that high  Grin
  
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Reply #12 - Nov 30th, 2010 at 4:39pm
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Grin Grin We did have to climb up and down there a couple of times to recover animals (good to be camped above them but they are a dog to climb back up with Grin)
  
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Distant Stalker wrote on Nov 30th, 2010 at 4:39pm:
Grin Grin We did have to climb up and down there a couple of times to recover animals (good to be camped above them but they are a dog to climb back up with Grin)


It would have been like a old farts tahr hunt that one  Grin if you ever get the report up please make sure you add about the ones that were shot at range and never recovered to confirm the kills.
  
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Reply #14 - Nov 30th, 2010 at 4:58pm
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I've got an older style Fairydown Altimate.  Rated 4 season and weighs about 2.5kg.  It's a 2 man tent and works bloody well.  Haven't tested it in the extremes yet, but it's certainly built very well and looks to be bullet proof.  can't wait to get it up the Kaimanawas/Kawekas when I'm home! Smiley
  

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