dont waste your time with those heaps of shite, terrible clunky cheap are a few words that spring to mind, guncity is a rip off I would avoid them like the plague, They quoted me $500 for nightforce rings jesus!! and I havent been back since.

remington 870 arnt a bad bang for the buck give it a good inspection and make sure the choke is in straight before buying though, mavericks and the mossy 500s and 590s are good aswell. I have a maverick thats my hack and it never misses a beat I tend to use it over my more expensive pumps

I think that it would be a good gun for salt water and if you work the action it will become smooth.I agree that a second hand 870 is a bargin duck gun.

mavericks are the best budget pump shotguns on the market IMO. i've put probably 3000 odd rounds through like 4 or 5 different mavs and could count the number of stoppages on both hands. id pick the short 7+1 shot model - superb pest destruction machine, especially when using out of a vehicle. plus will look the part in the zombie apocalypse

get the mav for a hack/general purpose blaster, save your coin for a nicer gun if your thinking ducks and clays.

MassiveAttack wrote on Apr 26^th, 2010 at 8:10am:

I wouldn't believe the american reviews when they say that its an improvemen ,I wouldn't even buy a gun from china. Whereas you could buy a secondhand quality gun that would last you a lifetime

are the GC guns made by norinco?

I picked up a magtech 586 a little while ago off Trademe for $150,  it's a replica of the remington 870 also apparently.  Only fired 3 rounds through it though, I'll take it to the range again next week and put more holes through some boxes or something.

Apologies for awakening on old tired thread from it's slumber, but.....has anything changed regarding the quality of GC/Ranger shotties in the last few years?

I have a gap in my safe that needs filling with a short 12ga pump. Have a Mossberg 930SPX 18.5", looking at Maverick and Ranger for an accompanying pump.