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Calling all Suzuki Vitara / Escudo owners, help!!!
Apr 22nd, 2010 at 12:26pm
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Hi guys,
I have a 92 Suzuki Escudo, short wheel base, 1600, 16v, G16A motor I think.
It has developed an intermittent problem when starting, basically it wont start, turns over fine, and there is no spark from the coil, I have replaced the coil and igniter and the problem persists.
It only does it sometimes, hot or cold and seems completely random, Have taken it to an auto sparky who couldn't get it to fault, so what next?
Everything functions as it should, no warning lights etc, have just changed the plugs, oil and filter change, injector cleaner etc.  When it runs it runs mint.

Any of you guys experienced anything similar? Faulty ECU maybe?

Please help, Im just about at the end of my tether with this one. Angry
  
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Re: Calling all Suzuki Vitara / Escudo owners, help!!!
Reply #1 - Apr 22nd, 2010 at 5:16pm
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Make sure all fuses and holders are clean.
Make sure the battery has good clean terminals.
Basic stuff.
Other than that possibly could have a wiring fault. Makes it very hard to trace.
You could also check the ECU plugs to make sure there is no crap in them or corrosion from water etc.
Possibly a ignition switch fault as well.
Does it have an alarm? If so possibly that is causing a fault.
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Re: Calling all Suzuki Vitara / Escudo owners, help!!!
Reply #2 - Apr 22nd, 2010 at 5:49pm
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Ignition switch fault is resonably common in all cars....if it fails to fire turn the key slowly until it turns over....Sometimes the key sytem gets flogged and the key goes to far....still connecting with the starter contact but goes past the ignition contact....
  

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Reply #3 - Apr 23rd, 2010 at 8:38am
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Thanks heaps guys,
Yeah have checked all the plugs and fuses etc, but at the moment cant get it to do its no start / no spark fault. Huh
But its bound to happen again and Ill try what you suggest Leathel.
No alarm Cambo, but my last vehicle did and your right, sometimes these can be more hassle than they are worth.

Thanks again and Ill keep you all posted,  Smiley
  
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Reply #4 - Apr 23rd, 2010 at 11:17am
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Think we had every other bloody problem with out one but this.
  

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Reply #5 - Apr 23rd, 2010 at 5:03pm
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Well its not starting again, still no spark and the key thing didn't work, so hopefully it still wont start on Mon when the auto sparky is open and they can fix the bloody thing.

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Reply #6 - Apr 27th, 2010 at 8:52am
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Well I just received a PM asking me to update the post when I find what the problem is exactly, Just happened to break down the other day and an auto sparky was behind me, he kindly towed me to his workshop just round the corner and had a quick look.
He said either the igniter or the crank angle sensor, as I had already replaced the igniter he was pretty sure it was the crank angle sensor.  I left it there for monday morn, they called me yesterday to say they cant get it to fault and needed to keep hold of it to ensure they get it to fault and fix the problem.
SO hopefully I get a call today saying its fixed, will keep you all informed as I see some of you guys are pretty keen to see what the outcome is for future reference.

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Reply #7 - Apr 27th, 2010 at 10:30pm
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Alex B wrote on Apr 22nd, 2010 at 12:26pm:
Hi guys,
I have a 92 Suzuki Escudo, short wheel base, 1600, 16v, G16A motor I think.
It has developed an intermittent problem when starting, basically it wont start, turns over fine, and there is no spark from the coil, I have replaced the coil and igniter and the problem persists.
It only does it sometimes, hot or cold and seems completely random, Have taken it to an auto sparky who couldn't get it to fault, so what next?
Everything functions as it should, no warning lights etc, have just changed the plugs, oil and filter change, injector cleaner etc.  When it runs it runs mint.

Any of you guys experienced anything similar? Faulty ECU maybe?

Please help, Im just about at the end of my tether with this one. Angry  

hi alex
i had a similar problem with my escudo it wouldn't start when hot  and would only start again once the motor had cooled, this was back in 2003 so im a bit vague as to what was actually done to fix the problem,but i think the entire distributor was replaced , sorry i can't be more helpful,
  
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Re: Calling all Suzuki Vitara / Escudo owners, help!!!
Reply #8 - Apr 28th, 2010 at 9:02am
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Hi guys, Yes Pope I think your bang on with this one.  Got a ph call last night to say that there was a problem with the distributor, they have ordered the part and hope to have it sorted this morn so I can pick it up today.  $480 bucks later I might add.

So will pick their brains when I pick it up and try get a detailed explanation of exactly what was wrong so if any of you DIY blokes have the same problem in the future you can save yourselves the $$$$.

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Re: Calling all Suzuki Vitara / Escudo owners, help!!!
Reply #9 - Apr 28th, 2010 at 10:49pm
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Alex B wrote on Apr 28th, 2010 at 9:02am:
Hi guys, Yes Pope I think your bang on with this one.  Got a ph call last night to say that there was a problem with the distributor, they have ordered the part and hope to have it sorted this morn so I can pick it up today.  $480 bucks later I might add.

So will pick their brains when I pick it up and try get a detailed explanation of exactly what was wrong so if any of you DIY blokes have the same problem in the future you can save yourselves the $$$$.

good to see you have it sorted i seem to remember that it cost me around the $400 mark also wonder if this is a common problem with them

Cheers, Smiley

  
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Re: Calling all Suzuki Vitara / Escudo owners, help!!!
Reply #10 - Apr 29th, 2010 at 8:57am
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Yep dodgy cam angle sensor inside the distributor, unfortunately the entire distributor needs to be replaced, they have a crank angle sensor on the block somewhere also that can cause similar problems.

As for a common problem, Im not sure, quite possibly.

I now have a spare coil and igniter sitting round if anyone needs one? owes me $80.

Hope this helps some of you other suzuki owners in the future.

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