In the past we have just used patterns like a dorothy yellow bodied size 2. The are not the fussiest of fish. Main thing is to have a reasonably strong hook if you are going to catch them on salmon type gear otherwise you just bend the hook. If you are using a fly rod you should have no problem not bending hooks.If you are casting in the sea for them as opposed to in the river mouth where the water is fresh make sure you wash the lure as the hook will rust and when you put it back in your fly box you will rust the other hooks the lure comes in contact with.
Hope this helps,
Cheers Salmoner.
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Aquila
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Re: Whitebait pattern Reply #2 - Aug 22nd, 2008 at 4:05pm
Tied Matuku [sp] style using a grizzle feather as a wing yellow chenille body ribbed with silver or gold tinsel and a hackle of grizzle feather. Damn easy to tie.
My guess you will struggle at Waimak mouth or at Shag rock best bet would be at mouth of Rangi or Rakaia sometime in Dec Jan or Feb but that is salmoning time then.
Hope that helps
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Re: Whitebait pattern Reply #4 - Aug 22nd, 2008 at 5:59pm
A silver woolly buggar works well for me. Simply a silver tinsel or perl ribbon body, grizzle hackle palmered and ribbed with oval tinsel, grey or grizzle marabou and a silver bead. Durable and provides lots of movement to assist detection in the often off-coloured tidal waters.
I usually fish whitebait / smelt / bully patterns in tandem, and often three at a time. This way your flies work as a team, and are often reacted to as such, as opposed to a solitary baitfish.
I use Matuku lures tied with grizzle feather and a pale blue chenile body on a size 12 Tiemco SW hook. Also tie small size 12 clouser minnows and crease flies.
An orange woolly bugger works really well too. Orange marabou, and chenille with black palmered hackle.
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I also tie one out of wingbrite. Just a straight wingbrite tail, then either dub the wingbrite onto the thread or just wrap it round as you would chenille. I like to put fabric glue on the body section as this creates a semi-hard head. I generally tie it on a size 10 caddis hook, but a circle hook would be even better.
super glue is a common term for it. Super glue is cyanoacrylate. Loctite are an industrial provider. They have many cyanoacrylate based adhesives, each for a different purpose.
406 is a very thing version. It cures quickly but does not cloud as the cheaper ones do. It comes in bottles rather than tubes for industrial use, and it's also something I use at work. I don't know how you can get it privately here because Selley's dominates the adhesive market to the consumer. 406 also doesn't become as brittle in low temperatures compared to consumer alternatives.
Don't use superglue near cotton - I wipe my dubbing needle with a kitchen paper towel - Applying cyanoacrylate to materials made of cotton or wool (such as cotton swabs, cotton balls, and certain yarns or fabrics) results in a powerful, rapid exothermic reaction. The heat released may cause minor burns, and if enough cyanoacrylate is used, the reaction is capable of setting the cotton product in question on fire, as well as releasing additional irritating vapor in the form of white smoke.
Material Safety Data Sheets for cyanoacrylate instruct users not to wear cotton or wool clothing, especially cotton gloves, when applying or handling cyanoacrylates